Superhub Modem Mode Alternate
25-06-2017, 16:16
|
#1
|
cf.addict
Join Date: Jan 2010
Services: VIVID 200, TV and calls, with Sky Movies and Sky Sport, Asian Mela. Two 1TB Tivo
Posts: 321
|
Superhub Modem Mode Alternate
I currently have the SH2 in Modem mode as i have my own far superior router, my question is can we replace the SH as a modem? It is very bulky and the power cable is rather large.
Any alternative? or does the internet have to run through the VM SH?
|
|
|
25-06-2017, 16:50
|
#2
|
cf.mega poster
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 2,065
|
Re: Superhub Modem Mode Alternate
Simple answer is no - you must have a Virgin Media Superhub.
|
|
|
20-08-2017, 15:23
|
#3
|
cf.addict
Join Date: Jan 2010
Services: VIVID 200, TV and calls, with Sky Movies and Sky Sport, Asian Mela. Two 1TB Tivo
Posts: 321
|
Re: Superhub Modem Mode Alternate
Surely there must be a way? The superhub has such a large plug, and thr actual hub is quite large too.
|
|
|
20-08-2017, 15:52
|
#4
|
cf.mega poster
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Oxfordshire
Services: TV XL ,TiVo X 2,
200Mb Broadband
XL phone
Posts: 1,158
|
Re: Superhub Modem Mode Alternate
It could be worse as at least it does provide modem mode.
|
|
|
20-08-2017, 15:55
|
#5
|
cf.member
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: London
Services: TV Maxit TV with V6 box + phone, M500, VM Hub 3.0
Posts: 94
|
Re: Superhub Modem Mode Alternate
In the old days, Telewest supplied the Motorola SurfBoard 4100 modem and then some from Scientific Atlanta such as the DPX110. If you wanted WiFi, you had to install your own wireless router.
These days only the hubs are supplied by VM. It would make sense for those of us who run the hubs in modem mode to be able to get only modems, but I'm not aware that VM is thinking along those lines.
|
|
|
20-08-2017, 16:22
|
#6
|
Perfect Soldier
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Worthing West Sussex
Age: 67
Services: VM 500M SH3 thingy
in modem mode
XL TV V6 Sony Bravia smart TV and M phone
Posts: 11,002
|
Re: Superhub Modem Mode Alternate
I'm afraid you're stuck with the big clunky kit. Put it in modem mode and if you really hate it you could put it under the floor?
__________________
History is much like an endless waltz: The three beats of war, peace and revolution continue on forever.
However history will change with my coronation - Mariemaia Khushrenada
|
|
|
20-08-2017, 16:34
|
#7
|
cf.member
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: London
Services: TV Maxit TV with V6 box + phone, M500, VM Hub 3.0
Posts: 94
|
Re: Superhub Modem Mode Alternate
Quote:
Originally Posted by heero_yuy
I'm afraid you're stuck with the big clunky kit. Put it in modem mode and if you really hate it you could put it under the floor?
|
Which is precisely what I've done, with the flashing lights pointing away from me.
|
|
|
20-08-2017, 18:48
|
#8
|
cf.addict
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 137
|
Re: Superhub Modem Mode Alternate
Mine's behind the sofa where I can't see it
|
|
|
21-08-2017, 08:47
|
#9
|
Inactive
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Leeds, West Yorkshire
Age: 45
Posts: 13,996
|
Re: Superhub Modem Mode Alternate
Unfortunately the vast majority of VM's customer base, alongside indeed the other big ISPs, want a gateway, so combined modem router, and that suits them just fine.
It also reduces the support overhead for the ISP as they can support up to that device and past there is someone else's problem.
It's possible to use alternative devices but is against the terms of service, involves disassembling the existing hub and attacking it with a soldering iron, and is generally not recommended.
TL;DR No.
|
|
|
21-08-2017, 10:14
|
#10
|
FORMER Virgin Media Staff
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Warrington
Posts: 4,737
|
Re: Superhub Modem Mode Alternate
The support issue is one huge reason why you'll never see custom Cable modems, security is another. By allowing your own CPE on the network, it opens up Virgin to all kinds of abuse, account sharing and that kind of deal. I don't know if the situation has improved, but it used to be you could pull the modem details from one modem and clone it onto another - as long as they weren't on the same UBR, you could "share" the account quite easily and it was difficult to crack down on. I believe since DOCSIS3 came along it's been less of an issue, but just goes to show how easily such a thing could be abused.
It'll never happen, just be glad they offer a modem mode.
The day Virgin removes modem mode is the day I seriously consider switching to FTTC.
|
|
|
21-08-2017, 11:38
|
#11
|
I Toast Bread
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Bath
Age: 26
Services: Vivid 350?
Posts: 254
|
Re: Superhub Modem Mode Alternate
Still don't understand how this isn't a problem for Americans but here its a thing you can't do.
|
|
|
21-08-2017, 12:27
|
#12
|
Sulking in the Corner
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: RG41
Services: 1 Gbps; Hub 4 MM; ASUS RT-AX88U; Ultimate VOLT. BT Infinity2; Devolo 1200AV
Posts: 11,955
|
Re: Superhub Modem Mode Alternate
I believe that consumer law in the USA is the factor there. Whether or not that has ever introduced the abuse that Kush mentioned, I can't say.
__________________
Seph.
My advice is at your risk.
|
|
|
21-08-2017, 12:31
|
#13
|
FORMER Virgin Media Staff
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Warrington
Posts: 4,737
|
Re: Superhub Modem Mode Alternate
I think the difference is the network in the UK is (was?) a lot less secure. AS I said, being able to plug a cloned modem in and for it to "just work" was something that DOCSIS 1.1 fixed, but VM (NTL/TW) didn't seem to implement those best practices until relatively recently - if at all.
|
|
|
21-08-2017, 12:57
|
#14
|
I Toast Bread
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Bath
Age: 26
Services: Vivid 350?
Posts: 254
|
Re: Superhub Modem Mode Alternate
That's rather silly but it is Virgin after all still a shame you can't but I understand why now.
|
|
|
21-08-2017, 14:03
|
#15
|
a giant headend
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Liverpool
Posts: 1,166
|
Re: Superhub Modem Mode Alternate
We dont need to implement security for 3rd party devices because we dont allow 3rd party devices to be connected!
So many poor decisions get made security wise because of naive stances like that.
|
|
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT +1. The time now is 19:00.
|