Is this really the end of C of E's resistance to gay marriage?

Mr Angry · 27-03-2014, 20:53

"The Archbishop of Canterbury has signalled that the Church of England will mount no more resistance to gay marriage among churchgoers."

Interesting.

27-03-2014, 20:57

I find it amazing how a religion and alter its doctrine just to be PC. The bible clearly states there is one true religion there are a lot of faiths that all think they are the one. I seriously doubt one that changes like this for a culture reason is the right one

And this is not a homophobic view its from a Christian viewpoint ( one of the stictor doctrine ones)

weenie · 27-03-2014, 21:02

What does it matter if two love each other IMO they should be allowed marry ...

27-03-2014, 21:04

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Originally Posted by weenie

What does it matter if two love each other IMO they should be allowed marry ...

I do not agree that is should be a christian marriage a civil one I have no issues with

weenie · 27-03-2014, 21:10

Some Christians have become very critical of gay people, due to some negative references to homosexuality in the Bible.There are many same-sex attracted people who choose to follow Jesus. So they should be allowed to marry.

Sirius · 27-03-2014, 21:10

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Originally Posted by weenie

What does it matter if two love each other IMO they should be allowed marry ...

Russ · 27-03-2014, 21:21

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Originally Posted by weenie

due to some perceived negative references to homosexuality in the Bible.

Fixed that for you...

weenie · 27-03-2014, 21:23

Thanks for that ...

27-03-2014, 21:24

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Originally Posted by weenie

Some Christians have become very critical of gay people, due to some negative references to homosexuality in the Bible.There are many same-sex attracted people who choose to follow Jesus. So they should be allowed to marry.

A Christian has to accept that the bible is the word of God or they are not a Christian. Now a lot of modern faiths will water down the meaning and say it does not really mean such and such and so and so however it is all about morality and most Christians simply do not have the moral standing to be true to their faith. Catholics of course allow you to do what you want then say your hell marys and our fathers and you are forgiven.

I for one have my faith but I am not strong enough morally even nearly to say I am a true Christian and I do not want to disrespect my God by pretending I am

Any same sex couple truly following Jesus would not be having sex same as any hetro couple who want to truly follow Jesus would not have sex out of marriage either let alone commit adultery with anyone. These are basic rules of morality and in this day and age very few can follow them

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Fixed that for you...

says someone from one of the newer faiths

Ignitionnet · 27-03-2014, 21:24

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Originally Posted by tizmeinnit

I find it amazing how a religion and alter its doctrine just to be PC. The bible clearly states there is one true religion there are a lot of faiths that all think they are the one. I seriously doubt one that changes like this for a culture reason is the right one

And this is not a homophobic view its from a Christian viewpoint ( one of the stictor doctrine ones)

Not changing for cultural reasons means no bums on seats and no money coming in, so unless God decides to start paying the bills himself the churches close. Not that long ago in the grand scheme the religious view was that the Earth was the centre of the universe with everything orbiting around it and those who disagreed were persecuted.

Most religions have adapted to the world around them in some way. Those following 'stricter doctrines' without regard for society tend to find themselves labelled fundamentalists.

27-03-2014, 21:26

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Not changing for cultural reasons means no bums on seats and no money coming in, so unless God decides to start paying the bills himself the churches close. Not that long ago in the grand scheme the religious view was that the Earth was the centre of the universe with everything orbiting around it and those who disagreed were persecuted.

Most religions have adapted to the world around them in some way. Those following 'stricter doctrines' without regard for society tend to find themselves labelled fundamentalists.

if infinity exists then everywhere is the center as for bums on seats and churches lol that is the pomp and ceremony of false religion imo worshiping idols another of the fundamental rules broken

you can not adapt morality Carl you either are or you are not. I do not pretend to be because I like sex that is why I left the religion I followed I would not lie in front of my God and pretend to be pious and righteous

27-03-2014, 21:34

Look, let the LBGT comunity do whatever they want, it makes no difference in the true eyes of the lord.

Call it what you want it is not a true blessed marriage so who cares lol. If you don't believe in religion its really not important anyway.

27-03-2014, 21:36

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Look, let the LBGT comunity do whatever they want, it makes no difference in the true eyes of the lord.

Call it what you want it is not a true blessed marriage so who cares lol. If you don't believe in religion its really not important anyway.

true but it always makes for a good heated debate lol

**Chris** · 27-03-2014, 22:30

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Originally Posted by Mr Angry

"The Archbishop of Canterbury has signalled that the Church of England will mount no more resistance to gay marriage among churchgoers."

Interesting.

Nothing in the C of E is ever quite that black and white. And in any case I'm not sure the words Welby is quoted as saying, justify the headline the Graun has put over them.

It sounds to me that the C of E may be about to accept the law as it is, or as it is about to become, but that's not the same as officially sanctioning gay marriage in church, or even blessing of gay marriages, even though some clergy will no doubt seek opportunities to perform such blessings.

Ignitionnet · 27-03-2014, 23:29

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you can not adapt morality Carl you either are or you are not.

It wasn't that long ago that keeping slaves was considered a perfectly moral act. Clearly morality has adapted, up to individual people whether they wish to do likewise.

To each their own, so long as it doesn't affect the lives of others. You'd have loved the night out myself and my fiancee had with a few others of her family, including a gay couple, in the gay quarter of Leeds. They were unsurprisingly the life and soul - the word has two meanings