50M Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS) - Page 245

roughbeast · 27-04-2013, 06:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by tdadyslexia

My Graph

Looks like I have been hit too!

What is going on with NTL?

They triple shafted you? Please guys, if you are affected, do try to complain here. http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...e/td-p/1815878

Here are two tracerts taken this morning during the bump. It is looking suspiciously like a peering problem again, at the VM gateway to the shared network.

Tracing route to thinkbroadband.co.uk [80.249.99.130]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms routerlogin.net [192.168.0.1]
2 5 ms 9 ms 6 ms 10.14.112.1
3 6 ms 13 ms 7 ms brhm-core-2b-ae3-944.network.virginmedia.net [21
3.106.230.165]
4 18 ms 7 ms 9 ms brhm-bb-1b-ae8-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253
.174.77]
5 19 ms 9 ms 9 ms nrth-bb-1b-et-000-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.
253.175.14]
6 10 ms 11 ms 11 ms tele-ic-4-ae0-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253.
174.18]
7 * * * Request timed out.
8 94 ms 92 ms 97 ms gi0-24-10-star1.core-rs2.thdo.ncuk.net [80.249.9
7.9]
9 95 ms 101 ms 93 ms www.thinkbroadband.com [80.249.99.130]

Trace complete.

Tracing route to BBC.co.uk [212.58.253.67]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms routerlogin.net [192.168.0.1]
2 5 ms 5 ms 5 ms 10.14.112.1
3 17 ms 6 ms 7 ms brhm-core-2a-ae3-938.network.virginmedia.net [21
3.106.229.93]
4 6 ms 7 ms 7 ms brhm-bb-1c-ae17-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.25
3.174.73]
5 12 ms 14 ms 14 ms tcl5-ic-2-ae0-0.network.virginmedia.net [212.250
.15.210]
6 16 ms 15 ms 15 ms 212.58.239.249
7 * * * Request timed out.
8 17 ms 18 ms 16 ms ae0.er01.cwwtf.bbc.co.uk [132.185.254.93]
9 17 ms 16 ms 21 ms 132.185.255.156
10 29 ms 18 ms 18 ms www-vip.cwwtf.bbc.co.uk [212.58.253.67]

Trace complete.

---------- Post added at 06:45 ---------- Previous post was at 06:42 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kushan

I've just noticed that I now have two upstreams as well (Liverpool). The 120 upgrade is still listed as July-September so I don't know if that's significant.

No idea when that happened, not checked in a couple of weeks.

Coventry is due 120Mb by the end of May brought forward from July, but I am still on 1 channel up.

tdadyslexia · 27-04-2013, 22:44

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\User>tracert www.bbc.co.uk

Tracing route to www.bbc.net.uk [212.58.246.92]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 6 ms 8 ms 7 ms 10.156.124.1
2 10 ms 7 ms 7 ms midd-core-2a-ae3-791.network.virginmedia.net [213.106.239.61]
3 11 ms 10 ms 10 ms leed-bb-1c-ae3-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253.174.45]
4 * 9 ms 9 ms leed-bb-1b-ae10-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253.174.25]
5 33 ms 16 ms 17 ms nrth-bb-1b-et-410-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253.175.50]
6 19 ms 18 ms 18 ms tele-ic-4-ae0-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253.174.18]
7 19 ms 17 ms 17 ms pos6-1.rt0.thdo.bbc.co.uk [212.58.239.237]
8 * * * Request timed out.
9 41 ms 20 ms 20 ms ae0.er01.cwwtf.bbc.co.uk [132.185.254.93]
10 18 ms 19 ms 17 ms 132.185.255.165
11 20 ms 19 ms 19 ms bbc-vip013.cwwtf.bbc.co.uk [212.58.246.92]

Trace complete. Time: 22:34 Date: 27/04/2013

craigj2k12 · 27-04-2013, 22:46

My traffic takes quite an odd route to bbc

Quote:

C:\Users\Craig>tracert bbc.co.uk

Tracing route to bbc.co.uk [212.58.253.67]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms E4200 [192.168.1.1]
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 11 ms 11 ms 11 ms ip-84-38-37-14.easynet.co.uk [84.38.37.14]
4 11 ms 11 ms 11 ms 89.200.131.187
5 6 ms 6 ms 6 ms ntl-ge2-9.prt0.rbsov.bbc.co.uk [212.58.238.189]

6 * * * Request timed out.
7 8 ms 8 ms 8 ms ae0.er01.cwwtf.bbc.co.uk [132.185.254.93]
8 8 ms 8 ms 8 ms 132.185.255.156
9 8 ms 8 ms 8 ms www-vip.cwwtf.bbc.co.uk [212.58.253.67]

Trace complete.

C:\Users\Craig>

roughbeast · 28-04-2013, 13:19

The timing of the phallus different day. Perhaps the engineers are church-goers.

Martin_D · 29-04-2013, 17:59

Why is it when I do a speedtest in IE the ping is 10ms but if I do the test in Google chrome this ping is 19ms ?

http://www.speedtest.net/result/2677147918.png

weegiegeek · 29-04-2013, 21:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Dee 11

Why is it when I do a speedtest in IE the ping is 10ms but if I do the test in Google chrome this ping is 19ms ?

http://www.speedtest.net/result/2677147918.png

I've noticed that some browsers can vary by 10-20ms as well.

Speedtest.net Namesco:

Firefox - 36ms
Chrome - 20ms
Opera - 18ms
IE10 - 16ms

Obviously these are difficult to be 100% sure on, because my ping's all over the place anyway.

Pinging the same server on the command line gives the following results:

Code:

Ping statistics for 85.233.160.167:
    Packets: Sent = 500, Received = 492, Lost = 8 (1% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 16ms, Maximum = 85ms, Average = 21ms

Edit: as for why, apart from natural variation, browser plugins can slow you down. FF also runs Flash in a sandbox, which I guess can add latency.

craigj2k12 · 30-04-2013, 02:15

Quote:

Ping statistics for 85.233.160.167:
Packets: Sent = 500, Received = 500, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 7ms, Maximum = 8ms, Average = 7ms

C:\Users\Craig>

Chrome - 6ms
IE10 - 5ms
Firefox - 6ms

I think you are right regarding differences in flash players, although my PC doesnt seem to show the difference (its a bit of a powerhouse)

weegiegeek · 30-04-2013, 16:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by craigj2k12

Chrome - 6ms
IE10 - 5ms
Firefox - 6ms

I think you are right regarding differences in flash players, although my PC doesnt seem to show the difference (its a bit of a powerhouse)

I hate you people with stable, low pings.

I get good speeds 99.9% of the time, but the upstream utilisation in this area is ruining pings.

Hopefully the 120mbit upgrade in the next month will fix it. I'll not bother holding my breath though.

craigj2k12 · 30-04-2013, 21:36

Im on Sky, thats the difference, to be honest, thats the highest jitter I have actually seen from my connection (1ms) it is usually non existant

weegiegeek · 30-04-2013, 21:57

Ah, so you are. It's pretty impressive. If I could've gotten FTTC I would have.

It'll roll out here eventually, I guess. I doubt VM will have fixed their network by then, so they better enjoy my money while it lasts.

Sephiroth · 30-04-2013, 22:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by craigj2k12

Im on Sky, thats the difference, to be honest, thats the highest jitter I have actually seen from my connection (1ms) it is usually non existant

Good point. FTTC upstream (from the Infinity perspective) is much better (less contended) than VM's. It's not a weakness, IMO.

craigj2k12 · 30-04-2013, 23:06

The backbone is symmetrical on DSL isnt is?

Jon22 · 30-04-2013, 23:11

Here's mine. No idea what was going on between 6-8pm, no one was in using the connection.

Kushan · 01-05-2013, 13:32

Well 3 guesses as to how well my connection is doing right now.

Sephiroth · 01-05-2013, 18:38

SH2 in Router mode with wireless (dual band) on.