The 2017 General Election

[GrimUpNorth]

Originally Posted by Mick

Labour drove a hard campaign. They had activists outside schools etc handing out leaflets about education cuts.

That said, it's leader, was still a catalyst to not running home. Had this been Andy Burnham. Yvette cooper, Labour would have romped home.

Unlikely, as they're​ still stuck in the 'New' Labour/Milliband days so would have been tarred with the same brush that cost Labour at the last two elections. I think the new leadership is helping people realise there is actually a different approach to Conservative/Conservative light.

Cheers

Dave

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Paul M

Yes, I read the link, why ?

You're OK with the conservatives teaming up with a party that are pro anti abortion & have blocked same sex marriage?

It's OK for the following?

DUP politician Trevor Clarke last year said he thought only gay people could contract aids and HIV.

?????

[richard s]

Go Jezza the people have spoken as for the DUP they are more right wing than the Tory's.

[Ramrod]

From todays comments in the Spectator:

May called the vote in an attempt to realign national politics and succeeded, but in a way converse to that she intended. Politically she is a dead woman walking, her disastrous tenure and campaign will be dissected and studied for years to come. School children will learn and recall it alongside the likes of Foot's 'longest suicide note in history'.

She produced an heinous and arrogant manifesto, devoid of respect and motivation for all generations. So lazy it didn't include costings, so bleak it couldn't enthuse anyone. After bestowing that turgid tome on a startled nation she adopted the mentality of a robotic recluse awaiting coronation, while her challenger stuck to the Labour rule book, throwing free things at the disaffected and meeting the proles on occasion.

Akin to a braggart car salesman who scuttles off to the toilet when they see someone pull onto the forecourt, her approach to this election will forever be ridiculed and held up as a case study in delusion and incompetence.

Any sane Labour leader would have won a majority. Any competent Tory leader would have won a majority. What we witnessed was a hideous and inconclusive wrestle between political pygmies. Think of that hearth side scene from 'Women in Love' with May and Corbyn, that's what we've put Brexit on hold for. Pathetic.

Says it all really, well put.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

From todays comments in the Spectator:
Says it all really, well put.

Good to see that Labour was not alone in not being fiscally sound in its manifesto. I'm amazed so many Conservatives attacked Corbyn's spending plans when theirs were uncosted. Believable.

[Onramp]

CF poll was quite close to the actual outcome.

[Mr K]

Senior Tory MP: "We all f***ing hate her. But there is nothing we can do. She has totally f***ed us".

https://mobile.twitter.com/Peston/st...arliament-live

A bit harsh I thought ! I'm beginning to quite like her, she's a socialist at heart, must be...

[Hom3r]

Lets hope Jimmy Krankie quits.

Originally Posted by Hom3r

Lets hope Jimmy Krankie quits.

Highly unlikely. The cult is so brainwashed they're all swallowing the "we won the election in Scotland" line at the moment, plus of course there's the small problem of there being nobody to replace her.

Originally Posted by Mr K

https://mobile.twitter.com/Peston/st...arliament-live

A bit harsh I thought ! I'm beginning to quite like her, she's a socialist at heart, must be...

Thought you would be pleased, just watching the news and Corbyn reckons he won?

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politi...-election-2017

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Mr Banana

Thought you would be pleased, just watching the news and Corbyn reckons he won?

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politi...-election-2017

In the same way Liverpool won the premier league and Hitler won the war.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Mr Banana

Thought you would be pleased, just watching the news and Corbyn reckons he won?

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politi...-election-2017

Yep, he reckons he won just like he reckons he never attended all those terrorist meetings, just like John McDonnell reckons he never went to a fee paying school and just like Dianne Abbott reckons she was too ill to vote and do an interview. What is it with Labour and the truth?

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/374907...r-prep-school/

[MalteseFalcon]

Quite honestly, this election has been a disaster for everyone pretty much.

Teresa May because she lost the majority that Cameron somehow against all the odds in 2015 secured
Corbyn because whilst doing so much better than I and many polls predicted didn't win the election
Sturgeon because the incessant banging on about a second Scottish independence referendum drove voters away to the Scottish Tories
Nuttall & Farage because UKIP is now pretty much finished as a political party, in all honesty once the Leave result last year won UKIP should had disbanded

In fact, only the DUP seem to have been the big winners out of this election, finding themselves effectively in government, even if there's no official coalition or confidence and supply agreement between them. However, I cannot see this lasting for a full 5 years now so I am 90% sure we will be having the election by 2020. Also probably without May as leader of Tories.

I'll be surprised if May is still leader at the end of 2017, nevermind 2020. She screwed up big time.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Paul M

I'll be surprised if May is still leader at the end of 2017, nevermind 2020. She screwed up big time.

l think you have summed it up perfectly even for Conservative voters as her campaign was a utter disaster from start to finish and even though she had many chances to get out from the looming iceberg on the horizon she had neither the political skills or nous to prevent the oncoming collision.

As l say l am no fan of Corbyn but compared to May he was in a different league campaigning wise in the election as Theresa May seem to have a contemptuous disregard for the electorate in that her plan was to do nothing and expect a landslide at the end of it.

There should have never been a election to start with and whoever advised her to do that should tender their resignation forthwith as it was a clear cynical move for her own electoral advantages that Joe Public quite clearly saw through.

The Conservatives had learned nothing from the Referendum campaign in that negative campaigning does not work as the public are not stupid and see through these things and they saw through that and her media newspaper supporters and their daily running scare stories.

The Conservatives never really set out their own clear plans and when they did announce their manifesto it was a absolutely clear unmitigated disaster whilst Corbyns manifesto seem to go down well even with non Labour supporters so the signs were there.

As we know the rest is history.