Brexit: Article 50 Has Been Triggered !

Originally Posted by Ramrod

Because they are a bunch of traitors who have bought into the EU plan.

Dissent is not disloyalty - language like this creates divides when we need to be united.

Why not convince others rather than vilify them?

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Unfortunately it's us that will be the losers. The bill for leaving will be £50bn, and that's just for starters.
http://uk.businessinsider.com/brexit...6-12?r=DE&IR=T

Never mind we've loads of money spare and can always hit the poor, vulnerable and disabled again. Boris et al will be ok with their private healthcare etc. The already gigantic divisions in this country are going to massively increase.

That was my big fear with leaving, that the country would become even more of a place of haves and have nots, a tax haven of the coast of Europe that is also a haven of inequality where all the public services have been auctioned of to the lowest bidder providing they have chums in the right place, went to their old school, are in their lodge etc etc. I hope this is the dawn of a bright new future but can't help but think it'll just be a much faster race to the bottom

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Originally Posted by Hugh

Dissent is not disloyalty - language like this creates divides when we need to be united.

Why not convince others rather than vilify them?

Because it's easier, the lazy option and rather proves one of the points john Major was making

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

Because they are a bunch of traitors who have bought into the EU plan.

they don't like that term ,they prefer to be called people with a different view on what loyalty to the crown and country is .

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Dissent is not disloyalty - language like this creates divides when we need to be united.

I was talking about our past prime ministers. If a leader of a country willingly colludes in that countries absorbtion into something like the EU whilst being less than open about the EUs true objectives, they are a traitor to that country.

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

they don't like that term ,they prefer to be called people with a different view on what loyalty to the crown and country is .

Heh

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Because it's easier, the lazy option

No. It's a statement of fact.

[pip08456]

She's at it again.

Now Gina Miller threatens ANOTHER legal challenge

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Dissent is not disloyalty - language like this creates divides when we need to be united.

Why not convince others rather than vilify them?

Sadly vilifying others seems to be very much the common norm at the moment in this country and frankly l thought most Brexiteer's would be better then that and debate and discuss things in a rational adult manner rather then keep on insulting those who voted to remain.

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

they don't like that term ,they prefer to be called people with a different view on what loyalty to the crown and country is .

There you go again insulting others who share a different view to yours.

[Kursk]

So referring to remoaners as traitorous and/or hormonal is not on? Aww, not fair

[1andrew1]

Part of the British identity is meant to be tolerance of others' opinions. I would like to think we can all unite and act on this part of our identity whatever our views on TV providers, Brexit or The Voice.

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy

That was my big fear with leaving, that the country would become even more of a place of haves and have nots, a tax haven of the coast of Europe that is also a haven of inequality where all the public services have been auctioned of to the lowest bidder providing they have chums in the right place, went to their old school, are in their lodge etc etc. I hope this is the dawn of a bright new future but can't help but think it'll just be a much faster race to the bottom and rather proves one of the points john Major was making

I read a really good article - which I can no longer find - which said that the UK is too large to become a tax shelter. And our wide range of industries means that a reduction in corporation tax would not be made up by a large number of companies relocating here. It also said that the UK needs to start paying more tax. We've had austerity but that's not made up for the lack of tax revenue the country needs. Sooner than later, we're going to have start paying more tax and it is likely that Richard Hammond will start to prepare us for the bad news.

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I read a really good article - which I can no longer find - which said that the UK is too large to become a tax shelter. And our wide range of industries means that a reduction in corporation tax would not be made up by a large number of companies relocating here. It also said that the UK needs to start paying more tax. We've had austerity but that's not made up for the lack of tax revenue the country needs. Sooner than later, we're going to have start paying more tax and it is likely that Richard Hammond will start to prepare us for the bad news.

Richard Hammond? The little squirt should stick to crashing cars not the economy.......oh wait.........

[passingbat]

Originally Posted by denphone

Sadly vilifying others seems to be very much the common norm at the moment in this country and frankly l thought most Brexiteer's would be better then that and debate and discuss things in a rational adult manner rather then keep on insulting those who voted to remain.

British Sovereignty is under attack, as is National Sovereignty world wide. It is important to understand the real agenda. The man in the street is largely unaware of this, but certain politicians are fully aware of this and it is why they kept the true aims of the Common Market hidden and deceived the British public. These people who want to sell out British Sovereignty deserve to be labelled what they actually are.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Kursk

Richard Hammond? The little squirt should stick to crashing cars not the economy.......oh wait.........

lol, too many Hammonds, too little time. The one in question should of course be Philip.

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

lol, too many Hammonds, too little time. The one in question should of course be Philip.

Easily done. At least you didn't mix up his co-presenter, Theresa May, with the Prime Minister, James May .

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Kursk

Easily done. At least you didn't mix up his co-presenter, Theresa May, with the Prime Minister, James May .

Ha ha the day's still young.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by passingbat

British Sovereignty is under attack, as is National Sovereignty world wide. It is important to understand the real agenda. The man in the street is largely unaware of this, but certain politicians are fully aware of this and it is why they kept the true aims of the Common Market hidden and deceived the British public. These people who want to sell out British Sovereignty deserve to be labelled what they actually are.

Whether one agrees with their views or not its pretty preposterous and illogical to call them or members of the public who don't support Brexit traitors as that is their beliefs as it is the people who voted for Brexit who have their own beliefs as well.

l though the British people were better then that but sadly the behaviour and insults since the referendum was called and hence since then with the vote for Brexit and afterwards have been nothing sort of deplorable IMO.

There are people on both sides that need to take a step back and relax but in fairness there is idiocy on both sides designed to get the rowdy minority foaming at the mouth. Gina miller is in this for her and i no longer believe her stories of harassment and bullying and i can see her being a constant issue for brexit expecting to get her own way on the process.