Superhub : Superhub 2

[thenry]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

VM haven't let themselves be visibly troubled with the the current SH debacle. Have they changed their spots or are you merely telling us what they should do?

they have come out after being forced and spoken of the SH1 troubles. i think theregister had quotes. it wasn't its a massive failure quote but one acknowledging the faults and stating firmware updates were being prepared blah blah blah. anyway the old days of a range of modems able to function are gone. that i understood as whatevers picked but this is now a new direction of providing branded VM Hubs. you cannot take the same approach here. its not a case of should. its highly probable. i'd be incredibly surprised if VM do 'whatevers picked' crap here.

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Originally Posted by Sirius

Just replace i think.

thats that then. dish out remaining stock of SH1s to all those not using SHs then roll on with SH2s.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by thenry

thats that then. dish out remaining stock of SH1s to all those not using SHs then roll on with SH2s.

Which part of "I THINK" said WILL ?

[thenry]

my mind

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by thenry

Customers on higher tiers would get SH2.

Anyone with a Superhub 1 will keep it unless they have a fault regardless of tier as they will not be replacing them with any mk 2 version due to cost.

Originally Posted by thenry

internal antennas don't cause problems. problems arise when their not properly set/aligned.

I take it that you have little idea of the location of the 2 antenna in the Superhub, oddly the router it is based on has 8 all around the device, can you think why that might be, clue? to make it more omni directional.

Apart from wet dreams the has been no announcement about a potential mk 2 which in reality will be the mk 4 as 2 and 3 fell over in testing which I know from a person in the know who still works for the company.

The reason is as I have posted on quite a few occasions is down to the stupid design the company insists on using such as internal antenna due to them wanting it to be aesthetically pleasing to the eye and not much bigger than the present Superhub which gives less room for internal antenna's.

What is required is for the company to look back 3 years to when they were testing named mainstream modems both with external antenna and without and both worked according to the 2nd line guys testing them much better than the outmoded VMNG300 or the Superhub, I believe that someone took a little helper/gift from a company to make them choose the present device.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by thenry

they have come out after being forced and spoken of the SH1 troubles. i think theregister had quotes. it wasn't its a massive failure quote but one acknowledging the faults and stating firmware updates were being prepared blah blah blah. anyway the old days of a range of modems able to function are gone. that i understood as whatevers picked but this is now a new direction of providing branded VM Hubs. you cannot take the same approach here. its not a case of should. its highly probable. i'd be incredibly surprised if VM do 'whatevers picked' crap here.

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thats that then. dish out remaining stock of SH1s to all those not using SHs then roll on with SH2s.

I wouldn't focus on the "whatever's picked" aspect. In short order, that'll be history.

What I'd put to you in the light of your analysis is: Have VM changed their spots?

[jb66]

There are still surfboard4200s out there, virgin dont do comfort swaps, only faulty units will be replaced. It cant be whatevers picked as they are not equal. virgin considered a v+ a v+ even though we all knew samsungs were better. They both had same software, same hard disk size.

This new hub will have superior wifi range and is dual band. So i guess during the transition period it will be new customers will get the new hub or folk upgrading to 120

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by jb66

there are still surfboard4200s out there, virgin dont do comfort swaps, only faulty units will be replaced

I bet the are still some Tailfins and even some STB modems as well, plus the older Surfboards, SA modems and NTL100's

[thenry]

Originally Posted by Peter_

Anyone with a Superhub 1 will keep it unless they have a fault regardless of tier as they will not be replacing them with any mk 2 version due to cost.

of course not. I'm just saying dishing out remaining SH1s to all that have no SH will run down stock. then the new SH2 can be taken forward. there could be within the plan depending on stocks that 30meg customers get SH1 and higher tier customers get SH2. an incentive to buy higher tiers.

Originally Posted by Peter_

I take it that you have little idea of the location of the 2 antenna in the Superhub, oddly the router it is based on has 8 all around the device, can you think why that might be, clue? to make it more omni directional.

Apart from wet dreams the has been no announcement about a potential mk 2 which in reality will be the mk 4 as 2 and 3 fell over in testing which I know from a person in the know who still works for the company.

The reason is as I have posted on quite a few occasions is down to the stupid design the company insists on using such as internal antenna due to them wanting it to be aesthetically pleasing to the eye and not much bigger than the present Superhub which gives less room for internal antenna's.

What is required is for the company to look back 3 years to when they were testing named mainstream modems both with external antenna and without and both worked according to the 2nd line guys testing them much better than the outmoded VMNG300 or the Superhub, I believe that someone took a little helper/gift from a company to make them choose the present device.

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

I wouldn't focus on the "whatever's picked" aspect. In short order, that'll be history.

What I'd put to you in the light of your analysis is: Have VM changed their spots?

I think their working towards change but I also think they need help.

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by thenry

Kind of says it all does it not, have you any idea of a date for the mk 4 release by the way.

[jb66]

Originally Posted by thenry

of course not. I'm just saying dishing out remaining SH1s to all that have no SH will run down stock. then the new SH2 can be taken forward. there could be within the plan depending on stocks that 30meg customers get SH1 and higher tier customers get SH2. an incentive to buy higher tiers.





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I think their working towards change but I also think they need help.

virgin can be winding stock down now as we speak if they have confirmation of a launch date.

[thenry]

Originally Posted by jb66

There are still surfboard4200s out there, virgin dont do comfort swaps, only faulty units will be replaced.

they are working towards replacing all old kit for SH1s (depending on stock levels) it could also run into SH2s.

Originally Posted by jb66

It cant be whatevers picked as they are not equal. virgin considered a v+ a v+ even though we all knew samsungs were better. They both had same software, same hard disk size.

This new hub will have superior wifi range and is dual band. So i guess during the transition period it will be new customers will get the new hub or folk upgrading to 120

exactly.

Originally Posted by Peter_

I bet the are still some Tailfins and even some STB modems as well, plus the older Surfboards, SA modems and NTL100's

yup. all of which are slowly being swapped.

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Originally Posted by Peter_

Kind of says it all does it not, have you any idea of a date for the mk 4 release by the way.

no it doesn't say it all. im just bored listening to you. everything your saying has been touched on already, infact in detail. details you yourself argued against. wheres your my sh has been running for eternity sig.

i dont know of a date for mk4 in VM world or SH2 in customer world.

Originally Posted by jb66

virgin can be winding stock down now as we speak if they have confirmation of a launch date.

yup.

[jb66]

Originally Posted by Peter_

I bet the are still some Tailfins and even some STB modems as well, plus the older Surfboards, SA modems and NTL100's

folk on the old 512k package cant get a superhub as it doesnt work so we have to put in an obsolete modem

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by thenry

yup. all of which are slowly being swapped.

As jb66 some cannot be swapped and the will be standard modems around for many many years to come as some still out there should have been replaced in the last century.

They will not be able to run down stock of the Superhub either as they could be left with a turkey as with the Huawei version so stock of the Superhub will be kept at present levels for a good while to come.

[jb66]

they could keep a few thousand old superhubs ready to be refurbish if required

[Peter_]

Originally Posted by jb66

they could keep a few thousand old superhubs ready to be refurbish if required

That would not last long though, they would end up sending 256's out and killing connections.