[Update] The News Corp scandal

LOL Boris Johnson just now on Sky news, "I am very glad, sorry I am very sad that Stephenson has gone"... LOL LOL LOL @ dear Boris ...

Next up to the guillotine, Cameron.

[denphone]

We called it a Firestorm but now its seems like the nuclear button has been pressed in this crisis.

I have to say I am loving this. It seems we will have a lot of corruption dealt with in the police, especially those who work too closely with the media for personal gain, and a much healthier relationship should hopefully be put in it's place. There needs to be a relationship but it's meant to be the media helping the police in investigations and the police in turn providing deep background for the journalists reporting the cases. It's not meant to be an additional revenue stream for police by selling privates details of people's lives.

It looks like Murdoch will never wield the same degree of power he has had over successive governments. He could never swing an election but he certainly was a powerful, but expensive, campaigning tool for successive governments. He probably got quite a lot in return from Labour and the Tories over the years to the determent of UK citizens who do not own a media empire.

Hopefully we will also get a more effective PCC and a more responsible press as well. All the while it appears there will be a slew of people who have contributed to the police/media corruption - which really is a bigger deal than I think we have been stating - and the phone hacking removed from their posts. Maybe even seeing the inside of a prison cell.

I really hope there will be a better country at the end of all this awaiting us. One in which the media are held to the same standards they hold others too.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Damien

I have to say I am loving this. It seems we will have a lot of corruption dealt with in the police, especially those who work too closely with the media for personal gain, and a much healthier relationship should hopefully be put in it's place. There needs to be a relationship but it's meant to be the media helping the police in investigations and the police in turn providing deep background for the journalists reporting the cases. It's not meant to be an additional revenue stream for police by selling privates details of people's lives.

It looks like Murdoch will never wield the same degree of power he has had over successive governments. He could never swing an election but he certainly was a powerful, but expensive, campaigning tool for successive governments. He probably got quite a lot in return from Labour and the Tories over the years to the determent of UK citizens who do not own a media empire.

Hopefully we will also get a more effective PCC and a more responsible press as well. All the while it appears there will be a slew of people who have contributed to the police/media corruption - which really is a bigger deal than I think we have been stating - and the phone hacking removed from their posts. Maybe even seeing the inside of a prison cell.

I really hope there will be a better country at the end of all this awaiting us. One in which the media are held to the same standards they hold others too.

Here, here.

Hackgate - THE MOVIE:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFufr...layer_embedded

Inspired casting

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Damien

Hackgate - THE MOVIE:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFufr...layer_embedded

Inspired casting

Excellent little clip and this scandal makes the Profumo scandal seem like a tea party.

[Tezcatlipoca]

Whoah. Another one gone.


I have to wonder whether it would be better for an outside force to conduct the current investigation, rather than the Met...

[Derek]

Originally Posted by Damien

I have to say I am loving this. It seems we will have a lot of corruption dealt with in the police, especially those who work too closely with the media for personal gain, and a much healthier relationship should hopefully be put in it's place.

Apologies for the link coming from the Daily Mail but this is quite a good article.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar...-business.html

This ghastly pantomine is what happens when senior policemen think they're running a 'business'

It used to be the case, little more than 20 years ago, that running a police force was reward in itself. In those long gone days, the vast majority would view retirement as a chance to give good advice to serving colleagues, do charity work, or write.

All that changed as policing became a 'business' after 1997, with a generation of senior people convinced they were God's gift to the corporate world. Increasingly, for many, public sector responsibilities have been garlanded with private-sector attitudes and all that entails.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Matt D

Whoah. Another one gone.


I have to wonder whether it would be better for an outside force to conduct the current investigation, rather than the Met...

A excellent idea.

Originally Posted by Matt D

Whoah. Another one gone.


I have to wonder whether it would be better for an outside force to conduct the current investigation, rather than the Met...

Who could do it?

[Tezcatlipoca]

Originally Posted by Damien

Who could do it?

I have no idea, but I certainly don't trust the Met to carry out a full, proper, and impartial investigation.

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Seems that Tom Watson MP, one of the few heroes in this sorry saga, called for such a thing back in January...

Guardian story

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by Damien

Who could do it?

Denphone

[denphone]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

Denphone

While honoured to have my name mentioned l feel there on others on this forum who are more qualified for the job.

[LondonRoad]

Originally Posted by denphone

While honoured to have my name mentioned l feel there on others on this forum who are more qualified for the job.

Derek?