U.S Election 2016

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

Just look at the demos all over the world. The White House has dismissed it. And blaming the media for all the trouble

White House has dismissed no such thing, they have dismissed the media's attempt regarding the comparing of Audiences at Obama's and Trumps Inauguration and quite rightly too, using and taking a photo taken either way before or after the event, anyone can do that, I saw the live footage with my own eyes as Trump gave the Oath of Office, it was certainly packed, right up to the Washington Monument, but I would not go as far as saying it beat Obama's Crowds for reasons I have already specified a few pages back.

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Originally Posted by ianch99

Free speech can still be inappropriate.

But thinking of or having thoughts of blowing up the White House is not inappropriate ?

Wanting to commit a sexual act in exchange for votes is not inappropriate ?

Get real FFS.

[heero_yuy]

Trump won, Clinton lost. According to the rules of the US constitution. No amount of demonstration is going to make a jot of difference to that result. They'll all go back to Facebook to post inane selfies once the hullabaloo dies down.

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Mick

But thinking of or having thoughts of blowing up the White House is not inappropriate ?

Wanting to commit a sexual act in exchange for votes is not inappropriate ?

Get real FFS.

What you said was appropriate. People can make their minds up on what she said.

But if you want to stoop to the same gutter standards as she does, that's your choice.

Some of the Press is saying the crowds no where near reached way back to the Monument, now one of my American friends has sent me this link to a picture system, you can zoom in, look around and I did just that and zoomed all the way to the Washington Monument, there is some spaces, can't argue that but it looks nothing like some of the pictures some of the Press were using yesterday and some of the false memes, showed massive amounts of empty spaces all the way back to the Monument.

When Trump delivered his Inauguration Speech, this picture system offered a far more interesting argument that says the Press were being deliberately misleading by showing a picture from earlier in the day.

http://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2...ion-gigapixel/

[Arthurgray50@blu]

So is everyone calling 'live pictures' fake. Or do they believe in special effect.
Just to clear a point. Clinton WON the public vote. Its just college votes that won it for Trump. And it was Madonna who wanted to blow up the white house.

Originally Posted by Mick

Wrong again, it makes the platform she stands on, very invalid.

You are cherry picking again martyh, it's ok for aging old Madonna to have a dirty mouth, talking of performing sexual acts to buy votes and then stand on a platform to demand respect for women, I do not think so, infact, I know so, as it's had the opposite effect on me, I cannot and will not respect those hypocrites for women.

I can't actually believe that you really believe Madonna was seriously trying to buy votes for bj's ,i think you're just using Madonna as an excuse to have a pop at the women protesters because you think their cause is invalid and they have some real cheek not liking Trump because he thinks women are only there to be felt up and daring to protest against him.

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy

Trump won, Clinton lost. According to the rules of the US constitution. No amount of demonstration is going to make a jot of difference to that result. They'll all go back to Facebook to post inane selfies once the hullabaloo dies down.

They weren't protesting the result,although given Trumps attitude i suspect most would be happy if the result was different

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

So is everyone calling 'live pictures' fake. Or do they believe in special effect.
Just to clear a point. Clinton WON the public vote. Its just college votes that won it for Trump. And it was Madonna who wanted to blow up the white house.

Well she is in to 'blowing' anything it seems these days.

The live pictures I saw, when The President gave his Oath, looked exactly like the the picture seen on that CNN link I posted above, that allows you to look around and zoom in. The Crowds did stretch far back to the Monument, you have the press telling porkies saying they did not and showing photos from earlier in the day, showing far more empty spaces than is being shown in that Photo on CNN page.

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

Trump won, Clinton lost. According to the rules of the US constitution. No amount of demonstration is going to make a jot of difference to that result. They'll all go back to Facebook to post inane selfies once the hullabaloo dies down.

Depends if the people there then turn their energy to local opposition. The tea party were effective for example and these crowds are far bigger than the tea party's initial formative protests.

It may die down and prove nothing more than a cathartic experience for those involved, it could be the start of a sustained and organised opposition that looks towards making sitting congressmen and senators nervous at the midterms in just under two years or somewhere in-between.

America is a constant political cycle. The midterms next year will have primary seasons which begin half-way though this year. It's why people say Presidents have 100 days to act, because after that the next set of elections loom large over politics.

Democracy doesn't stop. If even 1/4 of these protesters get involved at a local level they may be able to achieve something.

Originally Posted by martyh

I can't actually believe that you really believe Madonna was seriously trying to buy votes for bj's ,i think you're just using Madonna as an excuse to have a pop at the women protesters because you think their cause is invalid and they have some real cheek not liking Trump because he thinks women are only there to be felt up and daring to protest against him.

My goodness martyh, I cannot actually believe you have double standards.

You think it is reasonable, for someone as popular as Madonna, suppose to be a role model for girls perhaps and then here she is, offering to do a sexual act for votes, all this in public and caught on camera, whether she was joking is irrelevant, she said it still and thus, is still implied and then stand on a platform with women demanding respect. I do not bloody think so.

Originally Posted by Mick

Some of the Press is saying the crowds no where near reached way back to the Monument, now one of my American friends has sent me this link to a picture system, you can zoom in, look around and I did just that and zoomed all the way to the Washington Monument, there is some spaces, can't argue that but it looks nothing like some of the pictures some of the Press were using yesterday and some of the false memes, showed massive amounts of empty spaces all the way back to the Monument.

When Trump delivered his Inauguration Speech, this picture system offered a far more interesting argument that says the Press were being deliberately misleading by showing a picture from earlier in the day.

http://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2...ion-gigapixel/

The only people arguing about the attendance is Trump and his press secretary ,everyone knows that Obama had a better attendance but since he was the first black president that was to be expected and the only reason why Trump is making such a big deal is because he cannot understand why so many people were protesting around the world and it speaks volumes about Trump and his administration that they have not made any statement about the protests

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Originally Posted by Mick

My goodness martyh, I cannot actually believe you have double standards.

You think it is reasonable, for someone as popular as Madonna, suppose to be a role model for girls perhaps and then here she is, offering to do a sexual act for votes, all this in public and caught on camera, whether she was joking is irrelevant, she said it still and thus, is still implied and then stand on a platform with women demanding respect. I do not bloody think so.

didn't realise you had led such a sheltered life and i didn't say it was reasonable i simply take it for what it was ,a bit of bad taste humor

Originally Posted by martyh

The only people arguing about the attendance is Trump and his press secretary ,everyone knows that Obama had a better attendance but since he was the first black president that was to be expected and the only reason why Trump is making such a big deal is because he cannot understand why so many people were protesting around the world and it speaks volumes about Trump and his administration that they have not made any statement about the protests

No they are rightfully disagreeing with the photo's the press put out yesterday, they are the ones who started this by showing large empty areas that were clearly filled during his Oath of Office.

Originally Posted by martyh

didn't realise you had led such a sheltered life and i didn't say it was reasonable i simply take it for what it was ,a bit of bad taste humor

martyh, as I have pointed out elsewhere, I have worked in the public health sector for the best part of 25 years, I have worked around a lot of women and believe me, I am used to some of their sexual innuendos.

You cannot excuse Madonna's in any way shape or form and say it is okay 'just because it is her', she then cannot stand on a platform and demand respect for women, she is considered a Pop legend or was, she should not be using such disgusting disrespectful terms in public and then demand respect, it doesn't work like that.

Originally Posted by Mick

No they are rightfully disagreeing with the photo's the press put out yesterday, they are the ones who started this by showing large empty areas that were clearly filled during his Oath of Office.





martyh, as I have pointed out elsewhere, I have worked in the public health sector for the best part of 25 years, I have worked around a lot of women and believe me, I am used to some of their sexual innuendos.

You cannot excuse Madonna's in any way shape or form and say it is okay 'just because it is her', she then cannot stand on a platform and demand respect for women, she is considered a Pop legend or was, she should not be using such disgusting disrespectful terms in public and then demand respect, it doesn't work like that.

so what about when a man does it

Originally Posted by martyh

so what about when a man does it

If this about what Trump said about women, I think you will find I have already said, what he said was wrong.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Mick

If this about what Trump said about women, I think you will find I have already said, what he said was wrong.

I must have missed that in amongst the constant madonna bashing. Tbh I thought you were on a wind up at first, what she sad was clearly a joke, unless there is any actual evidence of her tucking in of course, you know like there is about a certain chap with small, wandering hands, grabbing stuff.

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

I must have missed that in amongst the constant madonna bashing. Tbh I thought you were on a wind up at first, what she sad was clearly a joke, unless there is any actual evidence of her tucking in of course, you know like there is about a certain chap with small, wandering hands, grabbing stuff.

Joke or not, it is still implied and it is still BAD either way, very impossible to respect a woman who jokes about offering to do a sexual act, in exchange for votes, so sorry not a wind up, if you think it is reasonable to joke about such a thing, you have double standards as well. Also what evidence are you talking about of him actually being seen to be grabbing women?