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Old 13-09-2013, 17:47   #1186
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Re: Bring Back Fox Hunting

Call it what it is. Blood sport. Campaign against it if you feel moved to, accept that other people will disagree with you.

And, above all, if you insist on referring to the people who do this as "animal", "subhuman", "Neanderthal", etc etc etc, you can't feign shock or surprise when they shout rude words back at you.
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Old 13-09-2013, 17:50   #1187
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Call it what it is. Blood sport. Campaign against it if you feel moved to, accept that other people will disagree with you.

And, above all, if you insist on referring to the people who do this as "animal", "subhuman", "Neanderthal", etc etc etc, you can't feign shock or surprise when they shout rude words back at you.
Indeed, been there, done it, got the brushes and have given back just the same including a broken nose for an idiot on a horse who attacked me with his riding crop. Its a long fall off a horse and a big thud as they hit the floor
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Old 13-09-2013, 17:52   #1188
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I know. You have told that old war story in this thread more than a couple of times already.
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Old 13-09-2013, 17:54   #1189
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I know. You have told that old war story in this thread more than a couple of times already.
Indeed there is an echo here
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Old 13-09-2013, 21:44   #1190
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. They chase a defenseless animal to the point it can not run any further
Ever seen a pack of Hyena's or wolves hunt?

Those heartless animals do exactly the same thing.
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Ever seen a pack of Hyena's or wolves hunt?

Those heartless animals do exactly the same thing.
We do and did the same, persistence hunting was one of the first forms of hunting and was so effective it's still being used today

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persistence_hunting
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Old 13-09-2013, 22:15   #1192
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Exactly, many mammoths will agree.
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We do and did the same, persistence hunting was one of the first forms of hunting and was so effective it's still being used today

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persistence_hunting
That was and is for food not some perverted form of gratification and sport
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That was and is for food not some perverted form of gratification and sport
The end result and impact on the hunted, however, is exactly the same.

There is no difference.

It is the same as being outraged by chemical weapons and being ambivalent to drone strikes.

Hypocrisy, in this world is without end.
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Old 14-09-2013, 05:14   #1195
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The end result and impact on the hunted, however, is exactly the same.

There is no difference.

It is the same as being outraged by chemical weapons and being ambivalent to drone strikes.

Hypocrisy, in this world is without end.
Exactly, doubt it made much difference to the fox in the end he's still dead, difference now is of course he has a lot, lot more chance of ending up dead on a hunt now than he did a few years back.
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Exactly, doubt it made much difference to the fox in the end he's still dead, difference now is of course he has a lot, lot more chance of ending up dead on a hunt now than he did a few years back.
Not if these people keep doing what they do http://hsa.enviroweb.org/
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Not if these people keep doing what they do http://hsa.enviroweb.org/
The death rate has increased in spite if their efforts, perhaps they should ask the fox what he'd rather out run, the hounds or a bullet
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The death rate has increased in spite if their efforts, perhaps they should ask the fox what he'd rather out run, the hounds or a bullet
nobody was ever denying the need to cull foxes ,just the way it was done .Fox hunting in the the traditional style was grossly inefficient and damaging,obviously now whatever method they are using be it guns or snares it is working.As i have said in this thread many times it's a win win situation
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nobody was ever denying the need to cull foxes ,just the way it was done .Fox hunting in the the traditional style was grossly inefficient and damaging,obviously now whatever method they are using be it guns or snares it is working.As i have said in this thread many times it's a win win situation
Shotguns and snares aren't effective, they inflict more suffering than the hounds and an eagle owl flying right through something doesn't exactly sound that humane either.
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Shotguns and snares aren't effective, they inflict more suffering than the hounds and an eagle owl flying right through something doesn't exactly sound that humane either.
can't see what point you're trying to make .Obviously they are effective because you said more foxes are being killed
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