Application Throttling/Management
07-10-2008, 22:44
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Re: Application Throttling/Management
In real terms if Allot was being used for shaping gaming traffic would it make the ping from the user to the gaming server higher, but the game still playable? Or the ping so high that gaming becomes impossible to play?
To be honest if 99% of games are playable just with slightly higher pings then I am not too botherd. If however the pings are so high that gaming becomes impossible then I would have serious issues with it.
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07-10-2008, 22:58
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Re: Application Throttling/Management
Can we please cease the personal abuse.
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08-10-2008, 01:31
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#378
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Re: Application Throttling/Management
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Originally Posted by darthlinux
I mean I dont really think Virgin will deploy this unless its just in the really bad areas
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One might have expected the same of stm, however this is the underhanded penny pinchers at VM we're dealing with, if its implemented, it'll be nationwide
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08-10-2008, 10:23
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#379
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Re: Application Throttling/Management
If this application throttling effects my Xbox Live experience then I'm going elsewhere... its as simple as that (and I'm sure others will almost certainly follow)
I already have a BT-Line so that's not a problem
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08-10-2008, 12:06
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Re: Application Throttling/Management
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Originally Posted by SimonB79
If this application throttling effects my Xbox Live experience then I'm going elsewhere... its as simple as that (and I'm sure others will almost certainly follow)
I already have a BT-Line so that's not a problem
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Same here I use my BB regulary for xbox live and if I cant play because VM need to save money then bye bye
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08-10-2008, 12:24
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Grumpy Fecker
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Re: Application Throttling/Management
So do we take the fact that VM have not disputed this, That this time they are infact doing this
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08-10-2008, 12:57
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Re: Application Throttling/Management
They have it installed Sirius as they have admitted, so the post from trax showing its active is just showing its on the network and in no way appilication managing anyone, if there was a trial we would find out about it, I have seen any slow down on my torrents or newsgroups, until I start to see this been affected I aint gonna worry too much
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08-10-2008, 17:44
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Re: Application Throttling/Management
Noticing some weird things as of late, If I'm on a game my pings seem to slowly rise from 15/20 to 45/50. After I leave the game I still have 45/50 pings to certain things, then suddenly after I've been off the game for 5 minutes my ping and download speeds suddenly return to normal.
Been going on for the past week, Only seems to be happening 5pm-9pm.
If I don't go on games everything remains the same.
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08-10-2008, 18:06
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Re: Application Throttling/Management
mmm strange I doubt its shaping causing this as gaming you have to connect to a server/host and it all depends where you are connected and how much load is but on the server/host, so once you leave a game your pings will be back to normal
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08-10-2008, 18:40
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Re: Application Throttling/Management
If only they invested as much energy and money in network upgrades and sorting out their current tiers, instead of throttling, "management" (more throttling) and the utterly pointless 50 meg tier that will only be used by people with chipped modems things might improve.
I have my Be install date now. If I get over 10 meg, it will be bye bye VM.
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08-10-2008, 19:57
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Re: Application Throttling/Management
Those Allot units have been there for years, they were ordered and installed years ago. None of them have ever shaped traffic actively nor will they, some of them aren't even activated.
The 10Gbit Allot SG Omega is presently confined exclusively to the Cable and Wireless LLU interconnects. No evidence of a wide spread trial or rollout on the cable network.
Yes they are there, ntl had all this kit and had to find something to do with it, so something to keep the number crunchers interested and help the application management companies to produce their statistics was the way to run I guess.
I repeat none of those units are actively shaping, some aren't even switched on.
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08-10-2008, 20:02
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Re: Application Throttling/Management
Which I have pointed out a few posts above I have seen no trials heard no about no trials from higher up contacts so really dont see this been rolled out, maybe VM do have some kind of sense
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08-10-2008, 20:11
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Grumpy Fecker
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Re: Application Throttling/Management
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Originally Posted by Broadbandings
Those Allot units have been there for years, they were ordered and installed years ago. None of them have ever shaped traffic actively nor will they, some of them aren't even activated.
The 10Gbit Allot SG Omega is presently confined exclusively to the Cable and Wireless LLU interconnects. No evidence of a wide spread trial or rollout on the cable network.
Yes they are there, ntl had all this kit and had to find something to do with it, so something to keep the number crunchers interested and help the application management companies to produce their statistics was the way to run I guess.
I repeat none of those units are actively shaping, some aren't even switched on.
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Thats good to hear
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08-10-2008, 20:17
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Re: Application Throttling/Management
come sirius if this was been trialled then we would of known about it
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08-10-2008, 20:23
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Grumpy Fecker
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Re: Application Throttling/Management
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Originally Posted by darthlinux
come sirius if this was been trialled then we would of known about it
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Would we ????
Remember STM that was trialed in small select areas first so as not to give the game away
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