[Update] Windows 10 Discussion

[tweetiepooh]

Windows 7 DVD and repair CD just don't see my hard disks (SATA), Linux has no worries. Windows 7 is running fine but I don't have a floppy for drivers. Can Win10 work without fuffing around? Can Win 10 go into my old Win 7 RC partition and dual boot to Win 7.

Normally I boot to GRUB2 on the second HD that can load Win 7 or Linux and I did have Windows "loader" of the first HD but that's got broken and I can't repair it (see above).

So what I'd want to do is
1)In BIOS switch boot order to 1st HD (after DVD)
2)Install Win 10 over Win 7 RC and have it repair the boot on HD1 to switch between 7 and 10


Thus
Boot HD1 -> Windows menu (7 and 10)
Boot HD2 (normal) -> GRUB2 menu including Windows -> Windows menu (7 and 10)

Will this work?

[qasdfdsaq]

Originally Posted by tweetiepooh

Windows 7 DVD and repair CD just don't see my hard disks (SATA), Linux has no worries. Windows 7 is running fine but I don't have a floppy for drivers. Can Win10 work without fuffing around? Can Win 10 go into my old Win 7 RC partition and dual boot to Win 7.

Windows 10, like all updated installers, has improved driver support for more recent drives and controllers. It can handle many SATA chipsets that Win7 couldn't but whether that includes yours we cannot say without knowing what yours actually is.

I did have Windows "loader" of the first HD but that's got broken and I can't repair it (see above).

If you can boot any copy of Windows you can run the same repair from inside Windows itself.

Thus
Boot HD1 -> Windows menu (7 and 10)
Boot HD2 (normal) -> GRUB2 menu including Windows -> Windows menu (7 and 10)

Will this work?

Unless you install four copies of Windows, no this will not work. Windows will not automatically manage bootloader entries on any drive except the one it is started from. If you install Windows 10 on HD1, you will not see a boot menu entry for it on HD2 unless you add it manually.

There are command line tools you can use to manipulate both the bootloader and boot configuration data by hand, but they are not the easiest things to work with, and IIRC they changed something between Windows 7 and Windows 8 that makes it a mess to combine.

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq

Lucky you. Three laptops here and all of them have connection problems when resumed after standby. Then again, they are all using the same Intel driver which wasn't designed for Windows 10.

Aside from minor interface bugs, the other half of the issues seem to stem from lack of driver availability. And this god-awful half-combo of traditional Win7 control panel and Win 8 settings panel.

Ahh, the joys of beta testing software.. Yep, I've beta tested a few OSes and every time I've had problems with drivers not being updated.

My experience with Windows 10? Installed it on a few VMs and it runs fine. Installed it to a VHD on my machine, then booted the machine from that VHD, and it booted twice. Now all I get is a black screen when I start it.

[Dave42]

Windows 10 Technical Preview Update Rollup: February 4, 2015

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/3036140?wa=wsignin1.0

[qasdfdsaq]

Indeed. At least it's mostly compatible with Win8/8.1 drivers and these issues are likely to be fixed before launch - unlike Vista where drivers weren't updated until a year after it went public!

That said, I also ran the developer preview of Windows 8 before it came out, and I had far fewer issues, I'd say that was a much better overall experience as well even considering the parts that worked as intended. I actually liked the Windows 8 preview and it frustrated me far less.

Incidentally I'm finding Windows 10 uses about 20-40% more power while idling on several laptops, which puts it back on par with Windows XP level power drain. Not particularly unexpected considering the mass of missing drivers...

[MalteseFalcon]

I did the 8 before release and it was awful, bought it for the cheap price and couldn't get on with it and went back to 7. Now I like 8 and am sorely tempted to just download the 10 ISO file on release to get it free and then try it out once proper release comes along.

[SnoopZ]

Microsoft are said to be targeting June 2015 for RTM of Windows 10.

http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-1...-is-the-target

[Dave42]

Windows 10 Launching This Summer in 190 Countries and 111 Languages

http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwin...111-languages/


Microsoft says pirated versions of Windows will also get a free upgrade to Windows 10

http://www.winbeta.org/news/microsof...medium=twitter

[Stephen]

Wow am surprised at the non genuine copies getting upgraded but it makes sense if the update is free.

[qasdfdsaq]

Very big strategy change for Microsoft but I can see where they're coming from.

[SnoopZ]

It will annoy the people that bought windows legally.

[qasdfdsaq]

I bought Windows 8.1 legally a few weeks ago because I needed an upgrade from 7 and couldn't be bothered waiting for 10.

I'm not annoyed at all.

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by SnoopZ

It will annoy the people that bought windows legally.

it will kill off the pirates too surely that's a good thing

[SnoopZ]

It will for the first year while it is free for windows 7-8 users, however XP users and the period after 12mths would still get pirated.

[alanbjames]

I have only just upgraded to windows 8.1.