Americans define 25Mb as Broadband.
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Americans define 25Mb as Broadband.
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29-01-2015, 19:34
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Re: Americans define 25Mb as Broadband.
Typical Yanks, They would say the sky was pink if it was to their advantage.
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29-01-2015, 19:43
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Re: Americans define 25Mb as Broadband.
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They also think they invented the internet.
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Hmm, but they did? 
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29-01-2015, 19:45
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Re: Americans define 25Mb as Broadband.
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I don't think this is a bad thing. The standard for what people consider 'broadband' has changed drastically since the days when it was anything over 150Kbps. Or 28Kbps modems were considered 'fast'
Even Facebook would take minutes to load at that bandwidth now.
We here have a similar definition in the UK anyway for 'next-gen broadband' which started off at 25Mbps+ as well. They may have left out the 'next-gen' part but then they also have a far higher proportion of people connected to FTTx services and a far lower proportion of DSL users.
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Hmm, but they did? |
Perhaps he was more hinting at how they seem to think they own the internet.
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29-01-2015, 19:47
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Re: Americans define 25Mb as Broadband.
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Typical Yanks, They would say the sky was pink if it was to their advantage.
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Not entirely sure how reducing their broadband availability in the worldwide statistics by 13% would benefit them. I, personally, entirely agree with this.
The really awesome part is we would call something 'superfast' that they wouldn't even describe as broadband now
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We here have a similar definition in the UK anyway for 'next-gen broadband' which started off at 25Mbps+ as well.
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>=24Mb download, zero definition for upload.
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Perhaps he was more hinting at how they seem to think they own the internet.
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In some ways they do!
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29-01-2015, 22:21
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Re: Americans define 25Mb as Broadband.
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Hmm, but they did? |
It depends what you consider the Internet?
Two commodore pets networked in a class room in 1975, is not the Internet.
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29-01-2015, 22:47
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Re: Americans define 25Mb as Broadband.
No, but they must have invented a Time Machine, as the Pet came out in 77.... 
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29-01-2015, 23:15
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Re: Americans define 25Mb as Broadband.
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No, but they must have invented a Time Machine, as the Pet came out in 77.... |
It was to make a flippant point, and not claiming to be factually accurate. You have to be on your toes round 'ere don't you?
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30-01-2015, 09:16
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Re: Americans define 25Mb as Broadband.
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It depends what you consider the Internet?
Two commodore pets networked in a class room in 1975, is not the Internet.
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The term "internet" was adopted in the first RFC published on the TCP protocol (RFC 675:[32] Internet Transmission Control Program, December 1974) as an abbreviation of the term internetworking and the two terms were used interchangeably. In general, an internet was any network using TCP/IP. It was around the time when ARPANET was interlinked with NSFNET in the late 1980s, that the term was used as the name of the network, Internet, being the large and global TCP/IP network.
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Basically once TCP/IP became the (open) network standard.
IIRC When NTL were trumpetting 256k through an STB as "superfast" always connected broadband. ( We had that )
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30-01-2015, 10:10
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30-01-2015, 11:28
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Re: Americans define 25Mb as Broadband.
When you say Internet, you really mean the WWW. there's a bit more to it.
It's akin to saying the car was invented some time in BC when actually it was only the wheel.
The Wheel, The coach Body, the inetrnal combustion engine, where all invented separately.
But it was Benz/Daimler and may a few others that put them them together and built the car?
Much the same with the internet/ WWW
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Re: Americans define 25Mb as Broadband.
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When you say Internet, you really mean the WWW. there's a bit more to it.
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That really depends on whether the person saying "internet" understands the difference between "internet" and "world wide web".
Internetworking is a concept dating back to the early 1970s. It allowed very different computer networks to "talk" to each other. Vint Cerf, the man most directly responsible for this, coined the term "internetting".
Vint Cerf and Bob Khan, the man who brought him in to solve the inter-networking problem, are both US citizens, and were working on what was ultimately a US Government funded project.
The World Wide Web is one of the many applications that emerged to take advantage of the infrastructure afforded by the Internet. The WWW has become so powerful and flexible that these days, a great many things that predated it, like Usenet, email and IRC, are frequently accessed via a web browser. This, presumably, is part of the reason why the distinction between the Net and the Web has become muddied in the minds of many users.
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30-01-2015, 13:39
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Re: Americans define 25Mb as Broadband.
Its a dramatisation but tells the story of the background to the internet. Go to 27:28
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvNNRlsJN9U
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