Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
18-11-2016, 12:30
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Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
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Originally Posted by Pster72
What are they going to do are the replacing the old TiVos or do you have to buy one or will there be discounts
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I didn't have to pay anything to upgrade and someone has posted that CS have said that customers will be upgraded for free, however, as Ben says, no commercial details have yet been announced so this may not mean anything.
I've noticed that there are duplicate greyed out apps on the V6 eg the iPlayer, when clicked on an "App temporarily unavailable" message appears.
Can someone please check if this is the same on the old box, if not, I wonder if these are some form of an app version of channel placeholders for future services.
When the box is widely available, could we see more apps coming to TiVo??
Talking of the iPlayer, it's now almost instantaneous and is quicker than using my Smart TV as I used to do before.
One thing about every digital TV service that i've ever used is that there is always a couple of seconds delay when changing channels. Apparently, this is because the boxes have to decode/decompress the signal.
With the V6, it's like going back to the analogue days- it's instantaneous! Not sure how they've managed to do this, but it makes channel surfing much quicker and easier.
In fact you now have to be careful not to miss a channel on the way!
Loading apps is much quicker too, obviously it's not instantaneous as it has the additional task of connecting to the internet; it takes about the length of time that the old TiVo takes to change from one linear channel to another.
What's Sky Q like in this respect?
Last edited by RichardCoulter; 18-11-2016 at 12:38.
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18-11-2016, 12:35
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Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
Handy link for all those who'd like to know a bit more :-)
http://www.virginmedia.com/shop/camp...-v6-about.html
If you scroll to the tips link, it tells you all about recordings and streaming to other boxes
http://www.virginmedia.com/shop/camp...soon-faqs.html
The only issue I see, is if you have a V6 and a Tivo, for them to be able to "pair" to watch recordings across devices, you need to wire your old TiVo to the superhub via Ethernet or powerline :-(
" With the V6 box you can start watching a show on TV downstairs, press pause, and pick up where you left off in another room, on another box.
First you’ll need to connect both your V6 box and your other TiVo® box to your Virgin Media Hub. For your V6 box you can do this via Ethernet, WiFi or Powerline. For a TiVo® box you can do this using Ethernet or Powerline."
Last edited by Ultimate.Conj; 18-11-2016 at 12:38.
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18-11-2016, 12:40
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Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
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Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj
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Thanks for the link, I'll take a look at this
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18-11-2016, 15:53
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Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter
Thanks for the link, I'll take a look at this
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took this quote from an Express article - could be interesting take on the invite they rec'd
" Those looking for an alternative to Sky Q could be in for a treat.
Virgin Media has mailed out invitations to its next media announcement, where the firm is expected to announce a next-generation 4K Ultra HD set-top box.
The invitation resembles a cinema ticket – hinting at a possible announcement around movies for Virgin Media customers."
http://www.express.co.uk/life-style/...ase-Date-Price
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18-11-2016, 16:54
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Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
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Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj
took this quote from an Express article - could be interesting take on the invite they rec'd
" Those looking for an alternative to Sky Q could be in for a treat.
Virgin Media has mailed out invitations to its next media announcement, where the firm is expected to announce a next-generation 4K Ultra HD set-top box.
The invitation resembles a cinema ticket – hinting at a possible announcement around movies for Virgin Media customers."
http://www.express.co.uk/life-style/...ase-Date-Price
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Or maybe a theatre ticket! It certainly sounds like they will be putting on a bit of a show!
I just hope the UHD films are not all more expensive pay per view courtesy of Virgin Movies, but I expect they will be. Sky is unlikely to share its offering with us in the short term.
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18-11-2016, 17:04
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Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
... probably the movies reference is about Amazon coming onto cable.
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18-11-2016, 17:06
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Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
Or maybe a theatre ticket! It certainly sounds like they will be putting on a bit of a show!
I just hope the UHD films are not all more expensive pay per view courtesy of Virgin Movies, but I expect they will be. Sky is unlikely to share its offering with us in the short term.
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I have a feeling you could be right, OB. Would be a nice surprise if VM have already agreed something in place for Sky Cinema 4K UHD movies...That's probably wishful thinking though
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18-11-2016, 17:07
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Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
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Originally Posted by Horizon
... probably the movies reference is about Amazon coming onto cable.
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Yes, you may well be right about that. They will also doubtless emphasise their price discount for Netflix UHD access.
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18-11-2016, 17:08
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Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter
I didn't have to pay anything to upgrade and someone has posted that CS have said that customers will be upgraded for free, however, as Ben says, no commercial details have yet been announced so this may not mean anything.
I've noticed that there are duplicate greyed out apps on the V6 eg the iPlayer, when clicked on an "App temporarily unavailable" message appears.
Can someone please check if this is the same on the old box, if not, I wonder if these are some form of an app version of channel placeholders for future services.
When the box is widely available, could we see more apps coming to TiVo??
Talking of the iPlayer, it's now almost instantaneous and is quicker than using my Smart TV as I used to do before.
One thing about every digital TV service that i've ever used is that there is always a couple of seconds delay when changing channels. Apparently, this is because the boxes have to decode/decompress the signal.
With the V6, it's like going back to the analogue days- it's instantaneous! Not sure how they've managed to do this, but it makes channel surfing much quicker and easier.
In fact you now have to be careful not to miss a channel on the way!
Loading apps is much quicker too, obviously it's not instantaneous as it has the additional task of connecting to the internet; it takes about the length of time that the old TiVo takes to change from one linear channel to another.
What's Sky Q like in this respect?
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That got my attention! Very interesting.
It's one of the most basic features, yet cable has consistently failed to have fast channel change since going digital.
I think Monday it will finally be my time to call Retentions about the price rises and other things....
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18-11-2016, 17:13
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Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
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Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj
I have a feeling you could be right, OB. Would be a nice surprise if VM have already agreed something in place for Sky Cinema 4K UHD movies...That's probably wishful thinking though
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I don't think that channel even exists yet, UC. Aren't these films shown on demand on Sky at present?
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter
I didn't have to pay anything to upgrade and someone has posted that CS have said that customers will be upgraded for free, however, as Ben says, no commercial details have yet been announced so this may not mean anything.
I've noticed that there are duplicate greyed out apps on the V6 eg the iPlayer, when clicked on an "App temporarily unavailable" message appears.
Can someone please check if this is the same on the old box, if not, I wonder if these are some form of an app version of channel placeholders for future services.
When the box is widely available, could we see more apps coming to TiVo??
Talking of the iPlayer, it's now almost instantaneous and is quicker than using my Smart TV as I used to do before.
One thing about every digital TV service that i've ever used is that there is always a couple of seconds delay when changing channels. Apparently, this is because the boxes have to decode/decompress the signal.
With the V6, it's like going back to the analogue days- it's instantaneous! Not sure how they've managed to do this, but it makes channel surfing much quicker and easier.
In fact you now have to be careful not to miss a channel on the way!
Loading apps is much quicker too, obviously it's not instantaneous as it has the additional task of connecting to the internet; it takes about the length of time that the old TiVo takes to change from one linear channel to another.
What's Sky Q like in this respect?
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It's beginning to look like Virgin's speed problems will soon be in the past. I can't wait to get this box, personally.
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18-11-2016, 17:26
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Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
I don't think that channel even exists yet, UC. Aren't these films shown on demand on Sky at present?
---------- Post added at 17:13 ---------- Previous post was at 17:08 ----------
It's beginning to look like Virgin's speed problems will soon be in the past. I can't wait to get this box, personally.
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It's the On-Demand Sky Cinema films I was talking about, OB. The ones that Sky Q customers have access to as part of the Sky Cinema package.
Fingers crossed VM have agreed a deal with Sky for us...that's where the wishful thinking comes in lol
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18-11-2016, 17:31
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Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
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Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj
It's the On-Demand Sky Cinema films I was talking about, OB. The ones that Sky Q customers have access to as part of the Sky Cinema package.
Fingers crossed VM have agreed a deal with Sky for us...that's where the wishful thinking comes in lol
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Let's hope that VM can pull something out of the bag, but I think Sky will be reluctant to make their UHD stuff available to other platforms in the short term. However, I will be more than happy to be proved wrong.
The words leopard and spots come to mind...
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18-11-2016, 19:26
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Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter
With the V6, it's like going back to the analogue days- it's instantaneous! Not sure how they've managed to do this, but it makes channel surfing much quicker and easier.
In fact you now have to be careful not to miss a channel on the way!
Loading apps is much quicker too, obviously it's not instantaneous as it has the additional task of connecting to the internet; it takes about the length of time that the old TiVo takes to change from one linear channel to another.
What's Sky Q like in this respect?
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Sky Q is instant whether its accessing a menu or changing the channel or accessing On Demand. You'd really have to see it yourself though, there are a number of YouTube videos and reviews. Using the now/next mini guide on Q is so fast I do scroll past channels sometimes but their on now also shows a mini video of what is currently on that channel if you leave it there for a few seconds.
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18-11-2016, 19:30
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Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
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Originally Posted by Horizon
That got my attention! Very interesting.
It's one of the most basic features, yet cable has consistently failed to have fast channel change since going digital.
I think Monday it will finally be my time to call Retentions about the price rises and other things....
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Not sure if it's my imagination, but the pictures on the recordings seem to look a lot better too. I'm not sure if the quality or age of the HDD can affect this.
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18-11-2016, 20:30
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Re: Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)
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Originally Posted by Stephen
Sky Q is instant whether its accessing a menu or changing the channel or accessing On Demand. You'd really have to see it yourself though, there are a number of YouTube videos and reviews. Using the now/next mini guide on Q is so fast I do scroll past channels sometimes but their on now also shows a mini video of what is currently on that channel if you leave it there for a few seconds.
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I'd disagree with sky q being instant. Complaints from many users on black screens of slowness lately. Mine is cancelled, sky could not resolve the many many issues. So many in common with other users and highlighted in their forums. Order in for virgin as we speak. Some good deals ATM
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