22-06-2008, 22:07
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No more Virgin Media, no more Virgin Phone, no more Virgin Mobile.
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by AlexanderHanff
A new letter
Could people please start writing letters to: David Davis
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Done. Been a busy night tonight. Half a dozen letters in one night. Almost a personal best.
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Originally Posted by AlexanderHanff
...any chance I had of privacy are long gone.
Alexander Hanff
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Sadly, one of the ironies of fighting for the right to privacy, the publicity.
Still, at least you can sleep at night, knowing people appreciate what you're doing for them.
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22-06-2008, 22:11
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Yeah it is kind of ironic that I have to sacrifice my privacy in order to try and protect everyone else's. You should -see- some of the emails I get from both extreme ends of the scale. I even get people phoning my house.
Alexander Hanff
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22-06-2008, 22:14
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by AlexanderHanff
Yeah it is kind of ironic that I have to sacrifice my privacy in order to try and protect everyone else's.
Alexander Hanff
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With the uni degree you have taken and the selected path you are taking in next steps at Uni. Wouls almost say this is your futuure to walk in high places fighting the cause for the small mans privacy, human rights.. You must have had a insight of what was coming and started tpo prepare yourself for the fight
You are appreciated Alex for all you have given up for our privacy.
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22-06-2008, 22:39
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by Florence
With the uni degree you have taken and the selected path you are taking in next steps at Uni. Wouls almost say this is your futuure to walk in high places fighting the cause for the small mans privacy, human rights.. You must have had a insight of what was coming and started tpo prepare yourself for the fight
You are appreciated Alex for all you have given up for our privacy.
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ditto
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Originally Posted by dephormation
Still, at least you can sleep at night, knowing people appreciate what you're doing for them.
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I think you can sleep with a clear conscience Pete.
You have brought your own (much appreciated) talents to this fight.
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22-06-2008, 23:08
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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22-06-2008, 23:15
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
I want to add a Letters page to the NoDPI site with copies of letters sent by the public and replies they have received (from people like their MPs, the Home Office, MEPs, EU Commission, BT, Virgin etc.) so we can have them all in one place. Any communication you have sent (email or letter) which you think might be relevant and have received a reply to, please send me a PM so we can organise putting them on the NoDPI web site.
Thanks
Alexander Hanff
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22-06-2008, 23:37
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Kent Ertugrul : various posts, blogs, interviews, press releases etc
"Research shows that our technology will help overcome two of the biggest issues consumers have with the internet – irrelevant ads and security. Our system will deliver ads that are more relevant....blah blah"
Given that on this thread there are probably many thousands of years of combined internet experience.
Much of it in a 'techie friend' advisory capacity as well as many combined years at a professional advisory level.
Is there a single person on here with a single instance of ANYONE who has ever said in any way, shape or form (resisted the temptation)
"I wonder if you could advise me on how to get advertising that is more relevant"
In the words of the 'false prophet' hecklers (relevant?) in the Life of Brian
"he's makin' it up as he goes along!"
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22-06-2008, 23:39
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by roadrunner69
Kent Ertugrul : various posts, blogs, interviews, press releases etc
"Research shows that our technology will help overcome two of the biggest issues consumers have with the internet – irrelevant ads and security. Our system will deliver ads that are more relevant....blah blah"
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And the results of this research are available where? Who carried out the research?
Research states that I should wear purple socks and everyone should give me £10 a day for doing so, no really it does, no honestly...
Alexander Hanff
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22-06-2008, 23:49
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
its the only way they going to get ads on our screens is dpi injection, we all avoid ads like the plague, they sick of us blocking em and this is one big up yours to the world.
we pay the beeb to give us AD FREE shows and what not
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23-06-2008, 00:28
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by Hank
I see the Home Office are late replying to requests under FOI...
http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/reques...mation_about_r
To be fair it looks like the original request did not state that it was made referencing the freedom of information act, so the HO may be able to get away with it!
Hank
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Hmm, my understanding of the FOI Act 2000 is that it is a statutory requirement to respond to requests for information within 20 days. It does not matter if the initial enquiry mentioned FOI; it is encumbent upon the recipient to consider if an FOI process is appropriate and in this case it clearly was/is. For absolute clarity, statutory means it is the law that they comply. Oh dear .
The Act states:
Time for compliance with request
(1) Subject to subsections (2) and (3), a public authority must comply with section 1(1) promptly and in any event not later than the twentieth working day following the date of receipt.
The subsections qualify the compliance rules but the information requested should be readily available so delay seems unnecessary.
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23-06-2008, 00:49
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by Kursk
Hmm, my understanding of the FOI Act 2000 is that it is a statutory requirement to respond to requests for information within 20 days. It does not matter if the initial enquiry mentioned FOI; it is encumbent upon the recipient to consider if an FOI process is appropriate and in this case it clearly was/is. For absolute clarity, statutory means it is the law that they comply. Oh dear .
The Act states:
Time for compliance with request
(1) Subject to subsections (2) and (3), a public authority must comply with section 1(1) promptly and in any event not later than the twentieth working day following the date of receipt.
The subsections qualify the compliance rules but the information requested should be readily available so delay seems unnecessary.
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Unhappy about the response you got? > link<
If ... - You didn't get a reply within 20 working days
- You did not get all of the information that you requested or
- Your request was rejected, but without a reason valid under the law
... you can
Ask for an Internal Review at the public authority.
If that doesn't help, complain to the Information Commisioner.
Complaining to the Information Commissioner
If you are still unhappy after the public authority has done their internal review, then you can complain to the Information Commisioner. To do this read Complaints about Freedom of Information on the Information Commisioner's website.
Warning: There is a backlog of work at the Information Commissioner, and it can take literally years to get resolution from them.
Well... we already know that complaining to the Information Commisioner can be a complete waste of time.
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23-06-2008, 00:54
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by Kursk
Hmm, my understanding of the FOI Act 2000 is that it is a statutory requirement to respond to requests for information within 20 days. It does not matter if the initial enquiry mentioned FOI; it is encumbent upon the recipient to consider if an FOI process is appropriate and in this case it clearly was/is. For absolute clarity, statutory means it is the law that they comply. Oh dear .
The Act states:
Time for compliance with request
(1) Subject to subsections (2) and (3), a public authority must comply with section 1(1) promptly and in any event not later than the twentieth working day following the date of receipt.
The subsections qualify the compliance rules but the information requested should be readily available so delay seems unnecessary.
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Trouble is, this Government seems to be no different to Robert Mugabe in Zimbabwe. They are either incompetent or they must assume they are above the law.
Has any British Government ever cited incompetence as a defence I wonder?
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23-06-2008, 00:56
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by warescouse
Trouble is, this Government seems to be no different to Robert Mugabe in Zimbabwe. They are either incompetent or they must assume they are above the law.
Has any British Government ever cited incompetence as a defence I wonder?
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Perhaps Gordon Brown thinks he is above the Law since he isn't the official elected prime minister.
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23-06-2008, 01:16
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Good points. Ah well, probably best that we keep our eye on the ball (phOrm)
EDIT: The visual impact of the suggested placards could be improved imho. They are too 'wordy' and may turn off the average punter. The theme needs to be more instantly recognisable and a prompt for curiosity. How about a black placard, one word in bold white: ISPy ? It has a street cred appeal and we'll be selling T shirts like this soon
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23-06-2008, 01:46
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by Kursk
Good points. Ah well, probably best that we keep our eye on the ball (phOrm)
EDIT: The visual impact of the suggested placards could be improved imho. They are too 'wordy' and may turn off the average punter. The theme needs to be more instantly recognisable and a prompt for curiosity. How about a black placard, one word in bold white: ISPy ? It has a street cred appeal and we'll be selling T shirts like this soon
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The linked imaged is not placards. As I said, they are the current ads being run on AdWords, I posted the image to give people -ideas- for placards, not to copy for placards, I thought that was clear in my original post.
Alexander Hanff
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