U.S Election 2016

[adzii_nufc]

He best put that in an email to make sure everyone can see it.

[Jimmy-J]

President Trump to speak soon

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/11/07/po...age/index.html

Congrats to Mick first off. He called it against the polls. Ironically it might seem the polls were largely right in terms of the vote but they got the states so very wrong.

My biggest fear is Trump will have a Republican house and little opposition. This would be less scary had the Democrats won the both houses. I am worried what happens with NATO. Europe needs to step up now as Trump is ambivalent if not outright hostile to the organisation which really has helped keep the peace in Europe.

Not sure what else. So much of Trump's platform scares me. I think his attitude towards minorities and women is abhorrent. His desire to deport all undocumented migrants is unrealistic. His wall is unrealistic. His promises to communities are unachievable (opening coal mines in a country soaring on natural gas?!)

I think we're still seeing the after effects of 2008 but we thought America was immune because no country has recovered better than they have.

Not sure what else to say

I came here to suggest someone should "concede" the election to Mick, and Damian already has.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Damien

Congrats to Mick first off. He called it against the polls. Ironically it might seem the polls were largely right in terms of the vote but they got the states so very wrong.

My biggest fear is Trump will have a Republican house and little opposition. This would be less scary had the Democrats won the both houses. I am worried what happens with NATO. Europe needs to step up now as Trump is ambivalent if not outright hostile to the organisation which really has helped keep the peace in Europe.

Not sure what else. So much of Trump's platform scares me. I think his attitude towards minorities and women is abhorrent. His desire to deport all undocumented migrants is unrealistic. His wall is unrealistic. His promises to communities are unachievable (opening coal mines in a country soaring on natural gas?!)

I think we're still seeing the after effects of 2008 but we thought America was immune because no country has recovered better than they have.

Not sure what else to say

l basically sadly agree with everything you have said there Damien.

[thenry]

Originally Posted by thenry

Is she President yet

Incredible stuff

thenry can you make that smaller, it's screwing up the thread.

[figgyburn]

The last mighty roar of the white baby boomers.brexit and trump.changes happening too fast.tech,losing jobs overseas,letting in unvetted immigrants who may have terrorist leanings,liberal policies re gay,lesbians and individuals proffessing to be of no fixed gender w.t.f. and if you spoke out against any of the above you were castigated by the liberal media.let the fun begin.

[thenry]

Originally Posted by Damien

thenry can you make that smaller, it's screwing up the thread.

Removed. Didn't realise sorry.

[heero_yuy]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Its probably an early admission of defeat. He can't win with the electorate so try the courts.

Don't think I'll be coming to you for racing tips chap.

Originally Posted by figgyburn

The last mighty roar of the white baby boomers.brexit and trump.changes happening too fast.tech,losing jobs overseas,letting in unvetted immigrants who may have terrorist leanings,liberal policies re gay,lesbians and individuals proffessing to be of no fixed gender w.t.f. and if you spoke out against any of the above you were castigated by the liberal media.

Trump now president elect, HC admits defeat. Congratulates DT by phone. (R4 Today programme)

Brexit 2.0 and for many of the same reasons, not least being the out of touch liberal elite in the capitals who are unaffected by their own policies.

Initial analysis shows HC ahead in cities but way behind in the country. (R4)

Let the fun begin.

Indeed.

The analysis of what happened here is going to be very complicated.

Clinton appears to have won the popular vote. She seems to have lost because Trump really got out of the vote in rural areas and, presumably, didn't match him in urban areas. She appears to have done worse amongst ALL demographics other than women and college-educated voters but the exit polls are suspicious. They have Trump as being seen as less qualified, people being more worried about him, believing Clinton is better for the economy and so on only for them to vote for him.

Look at everything so far turnout might actually be down. It may simply be that Trump got his vote out and Clinton didn't.

Originally Posted by Damien

The analysis of what happened here is going to be very complicated.

Clinton appears to have won the popular vote.

Where are you reading that? BBC currently has Trump 0.6 points ahead on the popular vote.

Originally Posted by Chris

Where are you reading that? BBC currently has Trump 0.6 points ahead on the popular vote.

Large parts of California still have to come in.

[heero_yuy]

Originally Posted by Damien

The analysis of what happened here is going to be very complicated.

Clinton appears to have won the popular vote. She seems to have lost because Trump really got out of the vote in rural areas and, presumably, didn't match him in urban areas. She appears to have done worse amongst ALL demographics other than women and college-educated voters but the exit polls are suspicious. They have Trump as being seen as less qualified, people being more worried about him, believing Clinton is better for the economy and so on only for them to vote for him.

Look at everything so far turnout might actually be down. It may simply be that Trump got his vote out and Clinton didn't.

Not quite yet:

Nov 9, 2016 at 1:54 am ET
Highlights
Popular Vote Is Still Very, Very Close

Checking back in on the popular vote, which is getting much closer: Mr. Trump has 55.7 million votes to Mrs. Clinton's 54.5 million, giving him a lead of 1.2 million votes nationwide.

But Mrs. Clinton may well yet pull off a popular vote victory — much of heavily Democratic California remains uncounted. California is also notorious for counting slowly, so it could be hours or even days before we have a preliminary popular vote total.

WSJ live

fair enough, we'll wait and see on that.