18-01-2011, 12:25
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Re: TiVo
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Originally Posted by fixerman
Based on past experience of the whole introduction of digital TV over all platforms there is every reason to concerned. These new technologies initially seem simple to distribute but frequently prove a lot more problematic in practice. If the third tuner was a simple software upgrade it would have been implemented by now. There is obviously a problem somewhere with the introduction of the Tivo box.
The whole razzmatazz of the original announcement and then...............silence.
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TiVo in the US and indeed around the world has never had three tuners, so TiVo have had to write software bespoke for VM.
The 3rd tuner will be enabled in March. Stop worrying
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Originally Posted by Rattus
Not sure about the 3rd tuner problem on V+.. I was a beta tester for the telewest TVdrive, along time before V+ and the 3rd tuner worked from day 1, 3 months before launch.
I'm in the won't order till it's working camp. It's too easy to say 3rd tuner is simple upgrade, as above if it's that simple it should be on there now. Truth is adding a 3rd tuner to the tivo software could throw up all kinds of issues within the software that no one has foreseen. After all tivo have known the box would have 3 tuners ever since the first contracts were signed how long (2years??) ago.
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1 year ago
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18-01-2011, 12:26
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#842
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Re: TiVo
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Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic
TiVo in the US and indeed around the world has never had three tuners, so TiVo have had to write software bespoke for VM.
The 3rd tuner will be enabled in March. Stop worrying
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Be careful how you make promises DF. You have no guarantee that you will be able to deliver.
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18-01-2011, 12:30
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#843
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Re: TiVo
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Originally Posted by fixerman
Be careful how you make promises DF. You have no guarantee that you will be able to deliver.
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Chill
I don't make promises about service issues, but I do know how things are going.
There is no indication that the planned 3rd tuner will not be ready by March
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18-01-2011, 12:34
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Re: TiVo
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Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic
Chill
I don't make promises about service issues, but I do know how things are going.
There is no indication that the planned 3rd tuner will not be ready by March
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I'll be first in line to eat a big slice of humble pie!
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18-01-2011, 12:40
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Re: TiVo
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Originally Posted by royaltiger
Cant believe customers are panicking over the 3rd tuner not being quite ready for distibution, so are these people constantly recording two programs at the same time all the time, I dont think so, I'm surprised you have any spare space on the hard drive if this is the case and the time to watch the recordings.
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Actuall yes, majority of the things that get recorded are usually on at the same time
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18-01-2011, 12:44
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Re: TiVo
I'd imagine the third tuner isn't going to be an issue by the time the box is in general circulation anyway.
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18-01-2011, 12:45
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Re: TiVo
And also when they are not on VOD or catch-up, so you have to record at the scheduled time or just hope they are repeated at a future date. This has happened many times for me and I even had a couple of times where I could have done with a 4th tuner such is the issue with the 9-10pm slot and VM not having access to a +1 channel or any catch-up on channels like Sky1 right now.
I want to control the TV I watch and when I decide to watch it, so I typically set series recordings and watch when I want to. 2 tuners for recording means I virtually never have a clash, but only having 1 will be different.
However if this is fixed in March after Tivo can be purchased in February, then a 4 or 5 week period will hardly be an issue for me.
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18-01-2011, 13:04
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Re: TiVo
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Originally Posted by Perfect Choice
I want to control the TV I watch and when I decide to watch it, so I typically set series recordings and watch when I want to. 2 tuners for recording means I virtually never have a clash, but only having 1 will be different.
However if this is fixed in March after Tivo can be purchased in February, then a 4 or 5 week period will hardly be an issue for me.
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I may have misunderstood you here but, as I understand it, you will still have two recordable tuners in the TIVO at initial release; you just won't have a third tuner to watch a separate live channel at the same time.
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18-01-2011, 13:07
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Re: TiVo
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Originally Posted by passingbat
I may have misunderstood you here but, as I understand it, you will still have two recordable tuners in the TIVO at initial release; you just won't have a third tuner to watch a separate live channel at the same time.
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That's correct.. you can still record 2 programmes at the same time. you just can't watch another live channel.
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18-01-2011, 13:21
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Re: TiVo
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18-01-2011, 13:25
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Re: TiVo
Sorry, wasn’t being clear enough, was meant to be referring to tuners available for recording while watching a third i.e. V+ now.
It is often the case that the children have not gone to bed before 9pm when programmes are starting which we would prefer them not to see, so 2 recordings may start while we’re watching something else on TV (my son seems to be addicted to Challenge TV!). Hope that explains the scenario I am thinking off when 2 tuners (in addition to the 3rd for TV) are available for recording is so useful.
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18-01-2011, 13:47
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Re: TiVo
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Originally Posted by clinteastman
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Which has been pretty much confirmed as coming on VM at some point too/
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18-01-2011, 15:05
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Re: TiVo
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Originally Posted by fixerman
Be careful how you make promises DF. You have no guarantee that you will be able to deliver.
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Calm down.
Also DF won't be the one delivering it lol.
I am also sure that the 3rd tuner will arrive in time.
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18-01-2011, 18:22
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Re: TiVo
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Originally Posted by whizzard
Which has been pretty much confirmed as coming on VM at some point too/
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Yes, if I remember part of the deal is feature parity with TiVo's products.
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18-01-2011, 21:44
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Re: TiVo
Quote:
Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic
TiVo in the US and indeed around the world has never had three tuners, so TiVo have had to write software bespoke for VM.
The 3rd tuner will be enabled in March. Stop worrying
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Hopefully, this time, they'll write the soft-/firm-/middle-ware to dynamically detect the number of tuners available, as they should have done the first time (I would have).
When we all have TiVo boxes with multi-terabyte disks and multiple HDMI connectors it should be possible to watch four programmes on two screens (picture-in-picture) whilst recording another four for later viewing!
Right now this evening, even with +1 channels, I have such an overlap of programmes I want to watch, most of them new episodes, that I will have to wait until they are, hopefully, repeated later in the week. No PVR here at all yet but, if I had, with only one tuner recording I still don't think I would be able to catch them all.
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