Cricket : The General Cricket Thread

[sir_drinks_alot]

fourth test cancelled tomorrow bet thay keep all the gate money

[iadom]

What i want to see is Darrell Hair & Inzi come out with the gloves on to sort it out, now that is something I would pay to watch

Appointing Darrell Hair to umpire any match involving Asian countries was always going to be fraught with danger but he is is very good company when he calls Murali as a 'chucker'

[Legendary_PSR]

the story on every news programme and what actually happened are different. at the start of it all, pakistan delayed coming out, and when they did choose to, the umpires and the england players were walking off the field.

then they refused to come out of their dressingroom with the exception of kamran akmal, who probably wanted to read the paper in peace

[Legendary_PSR]

not even the article tells the story properly. not at all a surprise

Originally Posted by Legendary_PSR

not even the article tells the story properly. not at all a surprise

So what is the your version of events then ?

[Legendary_PSR]

i watched it live and when the england players and the umpires went out the first time, pakistan delayed coming out. then the umpires and players headed back in and as they were doing that, the pakistan players headed out to continue play. however, they stopped when the umpires refused to turn round and head to the wicket(and thusly allow play to continue). it was then that inzamam ordered his players back into the dressing room.

THEN they refused to come out until kamran akmal wanted to read the paper. the rest is pretty much accurate(except for the coach scratching the ball, i can't recall either way whether that happened)

it's a pretty important event as it shows that pakistan were eventually willing to play on, it was the umpires who decided that wouldn't happen.

but, as always, the biased english media seems to miss out important events just to make their story.

i wouldn't really refer to it as my "version of events" though

Originally Posted by Legendary_PSR

i watched it live and when the england players and the umpires went out the first time, pakistan delayed coming out. then the umpires and players headed back in and as they were doing that, the pakistan players headed out to continue play. however, they stopped when the umpires refused to turn round and head to the wicket(and thusly allow play to continue). it was then that inzamam ordered his players back into the dressing room.

THEN they refused to come out until kamran akmal wanted to read the paper. the rest is pretty much accurate(except for the coach scratching the ball, i can't recall either way whether that happened)

it's a pretty important event as it shows that pakistan were eventually willing to play on, it was the umpires who decided that wouldn't happen.

but, as always, the biased english media seems to miss out important events just to make their story

Well I have just read the following.......

"In accordance with the laws of cricket it was noted that the umpires had correctly deemed that Pakistan had forfeited the match and awarded the test to England," read a statement on behalf of the International Cricket Council, England and Wales Cricket Board and the Pakistan Cricket Board.

Link

[Legendary_PSR]

good to see the ICC chose to say something, and have made the right decision in accordance to the rules.

now if only the dumb umpire had actually named the player he thought cheated, instead of just being childish, the whole situation could've been avoided

Originally Posted by sir_drinks_alot

fourth test cancelled tomorrow bet thay keep all the gate money

Some tickets had been sold in advance for the final day of the match and fans who had purchased them will automatically receive a full refund. Fans who were at The Oval on Sunday will be eligible for a 40% refund on their admission price and can claim it by following the instructions on the back of their ticket.

BBC Sport

[sir_drinks_alot]

here's the best website for cricket info

http://www.cricinfo.com/

[Legendary_PSR]

yeah, it's a great site

[bayonet]

It's a real shame what's happened although in the Laws of cricket it appears correct. What is the problem here is the way it was handled with no warning of what was going on. I know the umpire does not have to tell the fielding captain why, in the case of alledged tampering but he could have had a quiet word before hand.

This happened within 10 minutes of Alistair Cook being given out and don't forget until Pietersen had his usual rush of blood when he got out, he had clouted a couple of sixes. Did the damage occur then? What evidence did the umpire have that warranted changing the ball? It also appears Pakistan were not told they would forfeit the match if they did not go back out.

I find that strange because 1) There are enough umpires around 4 to be exact that could have passed the message on and 2) Bob Woolmer (Pakistan coach) has been around long enough to have some idea of the consequences

[davidweller]

Ian Botham was saying this morning that between Cooke getting out and the ball being changed only one boundary was scored and that was a 4.

The ball would have been viewed by the umpires when the wicket went down, and was ok then. When they looked at it a little later, they obviously felt that the condition had been changed beyond normal wear and tear.

They may not have seen anyone actually tamper with the ball, but in their opinion this was the cause of the change of condition.

Perhaps it would have been better if they had just changed the ball as no longer fit for use.

[Legendary_PSR]

They may not have seen anyone actually tamper with the ball, but in their opinion this was the cause of the change of condition.

and they were wrong to think that as they didn't actually see that and, when asked, refused to comment on it cos they didn't have any proof. you can't just accuse someone of "cheating" without actually having proof. and if someone had cheated, why wasn't that player kicked off the field?

Perhaps it would have been better if they had just changed the ball as no longer fit for use.

i see your thinking, but then the question would be "why wasn't it fit for use?" and then they would end up going round in circles.

i hope the investigation humiliates the umpire although, to be fair, just showing the "quality" of his decision making is enough to do that.

i do think the PCB is wrong to say they won't play with him as the umpire again. i can understand it(or quite frankly why any team would refuse to play with the idiot in charge) but you can't just do a "juve"(and a certain other club) and get the officials you want for a match

sorry, going off on one again. just love controversy in sports

[TheDaddy]

I see Pakistan have said they don't want Hair to umpire their matches in future, saying that he has a problem with South Asian sides (using the race card?), I maybe wrong but the only controversy I have seen him involved with was when he accused Muralitheran of chucking.