U.S Election 2016

Originally Posted by Chris

At 0:50, Hillary gives him the V. Seriously, watch it.

[thenry]

Get President Hillary Clinton on this

http://www.guide2womenleaders.com/Cu...en-Leaders.htm

[techguyone]

I'm still unsure if its still not just a big joke from Trump just to see how far along he can go. Pretty far it turns out. Merica... you scare me.

Originally Posted by Mick

HC struggled tonight, and I think she made the biggest error of all time by broadcasting it to the World how long it could take the US, from order to launch of a Nuclear weapon. There are reports that she potentially committed Treason with this remark or a serious violation of OPSEC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TThrAWtWdak

She did not deny the revelations from Wikileaks, instead blamed Russia for hacking and espionage. The World stage has Russia prepped for War and she just made that accusation against them. So if she becomes President, WW3 will be around the corner for sure.

She did not deny the allegations that her party's campaign was guilty of inciting violence at Trump rallies.

I can't find a single comment from any news outlet in response to this "biggest error of all time"

[thenry]

Blame social media.

Originally Posted by denphone

Despite what Mick says she is still miles better then the narcissistic personality of Donald Trump as god help us if the unlikely miracle happens and he gets his hands on the levers of power.

Well, I beg to differ and I maintain that she struggled last night, as well as being very stupid. She more or less squared up to Russia last night and we would face WW3 with Russia, under her Administration, than a Trump one.

She is massively trying to face up to Putin and then revealing Nuclear secrets about how long it takes to launch a Nuclear missile from the order to strike. Talk about giving the enemy an advantage there. Putin is now probably laughing and thinking, well, thanks thicko, I can now work on trying to improve on that timing and make the order for only half of what HC said. I think it was the most dumbest thing she said and she has said many stupid things, DJT has too, but she is in a whole different class, having been in the government and made stupid errors of judgement, that cost lives, Benghazi being a prime example, she made many errors of judgment over the years, along with her interfering buddy Obama.

[thenry]

So she isn't possibly clever enough to up the game? I mean may be it's her that wants the time improved or doesn't US politic work like that?

Originally Posted by Mr Banana

I can't find a single comment from any news outlet in response to this "biggest error of all time"

Try looking on twitter, doh.

Telling the World how long it takes to launch a Nuclear missile from the order being given, don't you think it's dumb? You and a few others here, also need to stop wearing those rose tinted glasses when it comes to stupid, dumb, crooked HC.

I have already agreed DJT has his flaws and is not one the best candidates but she is massively a huge liability, more so over Trump.

Originally Posted by Mick

Try looking on twitter, doh.

Telling the World how long it takes to launch a Nuclear missile from the order being given, don't you think it's dumb? You and a few others here, also need to stop wearing those rose tinted glasses when it comes to stupid, dumb, crooked HC.

I have already agreed DJT has his flaws and is not one the best candidates but she is massively a huge liability, more so over Trump.

You're so in to this it almost sounds like you have a vote

To be honest though Twitter is the last place I'd look for affirmation of anything. It's an echo chamber that resounds most loudly with the sentiments of whichever group is best organised (or has the most bots).

The problem for the American voters is that so much of what Trump says about Clinton is true. She has a shocking lack of judgment and is in every way an establishment figure standing at a time in history when that isn't what voters want. Yet at the same time, the anti-establishment figure they're asked to vote for instead, is a reckless misogynist with borderline racist tendencies. Clinton is awful, but Trump is a complete train wreck.

Personally I think all the data so far shows Clinton will win, but unless she proves to be utterly different in office than everyone expects, her chances of getting re-elected next time will be slim. If only the Republicans can neutralise the Tea Party nut cases on their right wing and nominate someone electable, that is.

Originally Posted by Mick

Try looking on twitter, doh.

Telling the World how long it takes to launch a Nuclear missile from the order being given, don't you think it's dumb? You and a few others here, also need to stop wearing those rose tinted glasses when it comes to stupid, dumb, crooked HC.

I have already agreed DJT has his flaws and is not one the best candidates but she is massively a huge liability, more so over Trump.

Not really, now I know I have 4 mins to kiss my arse goodbye.

Got to laugh at your rose tinted glasses comment and don't think that Twitter is reliable for telling me whats going on.

Talking to a friend tonight whose a serving gunney in the marine corp he said he'd handed his paper's in and taken early retirement as he couldn't serve with either clinton or trump as commander in chief. Doesn't sound much but for him it's a massive change in his life as he loves the marine corp and if you sawed him in half you'd find the stars and stripes. He said he isn't the only one that's come to the same decision and apparently whatever branch of the military you pick has some very experienced and valuable personnel quitting.

Add in the division within american society that this election has highlighted and worsened and there are going to be troubling times ahead. I haven't watched any of the debates but if it's true clinton has revealed the timeframe from order to launch of their nukes if she wins there will be very little if any support from the military who because of events in the past already have a deep mistrust of clinton. That trump is the best the republican party could put up is also deeply worrying and the splits he has created within that party could be very bad for the US.

Things just seem to be spiralling out of control all over the western world at the minute lurching from one disaster to the next and at a time when Russia seems prepared to push it's luck this could have very serious consequences for us all.

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

Add in the division within american society that this election has highlighted and worsened and there are going to be troubling times ahead. I haven't watched any of the debates but if it's true clinton has revealed the timeframe from order to launch of their nukes if she wins there will be very little if any support from the military who because of events in the past already have a deep mistrust of clinton. That trump is the best the republican party could put up is also deeply worrying and the splits he has created within that party could be very bad for the US.

To be fair I don't think he was the best Republicans had. It's just who their electorate stuck them with in the same way Labour activists stuck Labour with Corbyn.

Things just seem to be spiralling out of control all over the western world at the minute lurching from one disaster to the next and at a time when Russia seems prepared to push it's luck this could have very serious consequences for us all.

Russia are engaged in a very effective disinformation campaign against the West. It's time we took them seriously.

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Originally Posted by Chris

Personally I think all the data so far shows Clinton will win, but unless she proves to be utterly different in office than everyone expects, her chances of getting re-elected next time will be slim. If only the Republicans can neutralise the Tea Party nut cases on their right wing and nominate someone electable, that is.

Maybe Bloomberg will finally run. If voters want a New York Billionaire unlikely to take outside money then they should have gone for the competent one whose got experience. Paul Ryan is another one.

This is if the Republican party doesn't turn in on itself for the next 4 years gifting her the next election too.

[Ignitionnet]

Doesn't seem that big of a secret the timeframe in between order being given and nuclear launch; here's the process in a fair degree of detail.

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/gr...weapon-launch/

Clinton's comment matches this article. About a minute for conference then, once decision made and order given, 4 minutes for ICBM launch, about 14 minutes for SLBM.

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

Doesn't seem that big of a secret the timeframe in between order being given and nuclear launch; here's the process in a fair degree of detail.

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/gr...weapon-launch/

Clinton's comment matches this article. About a minute for conference then, once decision made and order given, 4 minutes for ICBM launch, about 14 minutes for SLBM.

So a lot of hot air then regarding the security breach. I would assume the Russians would already have known this any way, likewise I am sure the US know the Russian process.

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by Mr Banana

So a lot of hot air then regarding the security breach. I would assume the Russians would already have known this any way, likewise I am sure the US know the Russian process.

Looks that way.

As far as having 4 minutes to kiss your hindmost goodbye goes I'm afraid not. Depending on where you are you could have less than a minute between detection and ending up on your way to the stratosphere, and at most perhaps 2 or 3.

Aren't I a shining light?