Will Scotland Leave the UK? - Page 26

Osem · 30-01-2014, 17:06

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Originally Posted by nashville

What happened in Scotland or any other country hundreds of years ago is neither here or there, it is today that matters, where we stand now and what the future holds for us.

I have many English cousins and I don't see why we have to put each other down. Alex is only in this to give him power and be in the history books, his sums do not add up and he is a disgrace to Scotland.

richard s · 30-01-2014, 21:48

Just a short history lesson - it was the Scotties (from North Ireland) who invaded Westen Scotland (nee Pictland) and they absorbed into one country Scotland. Where have all the native Pictish people gone? Then the Normans invaded England who then in turn invaded Scotland. We don't mind are noisy neighbours who live above us honestly.

Shoot all our politicians for it is they who keep dividing us for there own gain and fame.

**Damien** · 30-01-2014, 22:29

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Originally Posted by richard s

Shoot all our politicians for it is they who keep dividing us for there own gain and fame.

I don't think we need the help. People are perfectly good at finding reasons to divide themselves without the help of the politicians that pander to them.

Jimi · 30-01-2014, 22:36

First of all,I'll give you this wee link....
http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...orwegians-fund

Then there's this....
An independent Scotland could become the richest country on earth. I’m not joking. It has all the necessary ingredients. Let me explain.

Each year the World Bank, the IMF and the CIA each independently publish a list of the richest countries in the world - as measured by GDP per capita at purchasing power parity.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/...h-9096120.html
-------------------------------------------Have an nice evening.

[ADMIN EDIT - Please do not post entire articles then place the link next to it. Do one or the other]

richard s · 31-01-2014, 09:01

I did not know that there are 800,000 Scots living in England who cannot vote for or against independence.

**Chris** · 31-01-2014, 09:03

Of course they can't vote, they above all know the value of living in a single, integrated country called the UK and Alex can't have them expressing that at the ballot box. He needs to keep the vote as narrow and parochial as he can.

Osem · 31-01-2014, 09:17

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Originally Posted by Chris

Of course they can't vote, they above all know the value of living in a single, integrated country called the UK and Alex can't have them expressing that at the ballot box. He needs to keep the vote as narrow and parochial as he can.

It's called project Braveheart IIRC...

**Chris** · 31-01-2014, 09:52

A nice little quotable quote from Jeremy Warner in the Telegraph this morning:

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Scotland cannot have both the pound and economic sovereignty; it’s a contradiction in terms.

This is a simple fact that needs to be repeated at every available opportunity. Salmond's whole scheme is a big lie. When you strip away all the bluff and bluster, all you actually have left is some pretty ugly anti-English bile.

Vote NO in September.

Taf · 31-01-2014, 09:59

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Originally Posted by richard s

Shoot all our politicians for it is they who keep dividing us for there own gain and fame.

It's the same thing in Wales.

**Hugh** · 31-01-2014, 11:06

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Originally Posted by Jimi

First of all,I'll give you this wee link....
http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...orwegians-fund

Then there's this....
An independent Scotland could become the richest country on earth. I’m not joking. It has all the necessary ingredients. Let me explain.

Each year the World Bank, the IMF and the CIA each independently publish a list of the richest countries in the world - as measured by GDP per capita at purchasing power parity.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/...h-9096120.html
-------------------------------------------Have an nice evening.

[ADMIN EDIT - Please do not post entire articles then place the link next to it. Do one or the other]

You, and the author of that comment piece, appear to confusing correlation with causation.

nashville · 31-01-2014, 11:15

Definitely will not be the richest country, We will be destroyed ,

Osem · 31-01-2014, 11:21

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Originally Posted by Chris

A nice little quotable quote from Jeremy Warner in the Telegraph this morning:

This is a simple fact that needs to be repeated at every available opportunity. Salmond's whole scheme is a big lie. When you strip away all the bluff and bluster, all you actually have left is some pretty ugly anti-English bile.

Vote NO in September.

Salmond's Tartan Twits need a nasty enemy to blame, it's what happens when dubious and desperate leaders need something to deflect the attentions of the electorate away from life's unappealing realities. There's nothing quite like a bit of blind nationalism to stir people up. Yes some Scots will buy into it and more fool them if that's what they base their votes upon.

Salmond actually reminds me of Gordon Brown at the point where his delusions of greatness and his 'rightful' place in history prevented him from accepting that his failed economic policy was unravelling before his very eyes. Hitler ordering vast non existent armies into battle from a bunker in Berlin comes to mind.

Jimi · 31-01-2014, 14:43

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Originally Posted by richard s

I did not know that there are 800,000 Scots living in England who cannot vote for or against independence.

Why should they be allowed tae vote,they live in Englandshire now,that was their choice tae desert Scotland and take up living in a foreign country.

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Originally Posted by nashville

Definitely will not be the richest country, We will be destroyed ,

So long as we don't take any ideas from Rangers then we'll be fine.

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Originally Posted by Osem

Salmond's Tartan Twits need a nasty enemy to blame, it's what happens when dubious and desperate leaders need something to deflect the attentions of the electorate away from life's unappealing realities. There's nothing quite like a bit of blind nationalism to stir people up. Yes some Scots will buy into it and more fool them if that's what they base their votes upon.

Salmond actually reminds me of Gordon Brown at the point where his delusions of greatness and his 'rightful' place in history prevented him from accepting that his failed economic policy was unravelling before his very eyes. Hitler ordering vast non existent armies into battle from a bunker in Berlin comes to mind.

Stephen · 31-01-2014, 14:51

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Originally Posted by Jimi

Why should they be allowed tae vote,they live in Englandshire now,that was their choice tae desert Scotland and take up living in a foreign country.

I'm sorry what a small little mind you have. You think 100% of people that have moved to england did it through choice? A lot of the time it will be a job that prompted the move. Not the choice but the only choice for a decent life. Or if they are in the army and get posted overseas, its not really their choice!

I myself lived in England from the age of 5-20 and couldn't wait to be able to move back here. We moved as my Dad got offered a very good job.

Also no one is deserting Scotland, England is part of the UK so its not really a foreign country like Spain of France is. They are still Scottish and can return at anytime so should still have a say in what happens to their place of birth.

After all their passports list their nationality as British.

techguyone · 31-01-2014, 14:54

I've still not made up my mind if 'jimi' is a troll - but I'm leaning towards it.