31-07-2016, 18:00
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Re: Corbyn's kerfuffle
I think that from day one. Corbyn should have been sticking up for the Low Paid worker, the people on zero hour contracts. Pushing May, to axe the dreaded Bedroom Tax.
He is too soft, and only won the Leadership on the backs of stupid Labour members that paid money into the Party.
Its like Cameron giving out Gongs for donating to the Tories.
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31-07-2016, 19:50
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Re: Corbyn's kerfuffle
Juist been listening to some commentator or other banging on about how ridiculous it is for a UKIP leadership candidate to have missed the application deadline. As ridiculous as Corbyn's 'Labour Party'?...
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01-08-2016, 18:42
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Re: Corbyn's kerfuffle
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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu
I think that from day one. Corbyn should have been sticking up for the Low Paid worker, the people on zero hour contracts. Pushing May, to axe the dreaded Bedroom Tax.
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You obviously don't listen to PMQs?
Corbyn comes across to me as someone on the autistic spectrum (Aspergers), he does nothing but rigidly ask the same few questions on the subjects he is obsessed with.
Those constant questions he constantly repeats are the ones you say he is not asking.
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08-08-2016, 19:19
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Labour is challenging a High Court ruling giving recent members a vote in its leadership contest, with the appeal hearing expected on Thursday.
The party lost a legal challenge to its rules banning anyone who joined as a member after 12 January from taking part unless they paid an extra £25.
Shadow chancellor John McDonnell had urged Labour not to appeal.
But the party said it would defend the right of its governing NEC "to uphold the rule book".
The court's decision, handed down on Monday, could add anywhere between 126,592 and 150,000 people to the list of those eligible to vote in the contest - according to different estimates.
The ruling is thought likely to benefit leader Jeremy Corbyn over challenger Owen Smith, who earlier branded Mr Corbyn "useless" and said he had "fractured" the Labour Party.
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These people can't run their own party let alone the country...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37009871
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08-08-2016, 22:13
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Re: Corbyn's kerfuffle
All this is doing, is to increase the money that The Labour Party get. Which is wrong.
The Money that The labour Party gets comes from the Unions, donators - NT from people that want t see Jeremy Corbyn win another farcical election.
We want a leader elected by the Voter, at a General Election. The NEC is run by Unions and pen pushers.
Aren't these prats aware that Corbyn, will NEVER win a General Election. He is NOT strong enough to take on The Conservatives.
If there is a General Election would rather vote UKIP.
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08-08-2016, 22:20
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Re: Corbyn's kerfuffle
Arthur it was normal members who got corbyn the leadership.
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08-08-2016, 23:16
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It's getting a bit boring now with all this Labour rubbish. what does Corbyn actually do? what has he actually done? and what will he do? he just goes to work to do absolutely nothing really. and we're all getting bored with it all.
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09-08-2016, 09:44
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I bet Sadiq Khan is soooooooooooooooo happy he nominated Corbyn in the first place.
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09-08-2016, 10:57
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Re: Corbyn's kerfuffle
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I bet Sadiq Khan is soooooooooooooooo happy he nominated Corbyn in the first place.
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Talk about self inflicted wounds.
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Jeremy Corbyn's chances of remaining Labour leader are stronger than ever since winning the first round of Labour membership betting last week, while rival Owen Smith's odds are going into freefall, according to bookmakers.
Most give Corbyn odds of 1/6, even shorter than the already-strong odds of 2/7 he had on Thursday.
Owen Smith's odds, on the other hand, have crumbled even further in the same period, down to 4/1 from 7/2.
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The Tory's must be brimming with glee, contrast the clean take over by May and her new team with this rabble.
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09-08-2016, 12:04
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Re: Corbyn's kerfuffle
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Talk about self inflicted wounds.
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The Tory's must be brimming with glee, contrast the clean take over by May and her new team with this rabble.
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Exactly. If the Tories were Labour they'd have accidentally let a load of UKIP members in to vote for Angela Leadsom. That is, someone popular with a section of the party faithful but not popular in the country.
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09-08-2016, 12:45
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Re: Corbyn's kerfuffle
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Talk about self inflicted wounds.
Linky
The Tory's must be brimming with glee, contrast the clean take over by May and her new team with this rabble.
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What little credibility they had left (if there was any) after the Bliar/Brown years suddenly looks a very long way away. As it is, the supposed 'movers and shakers' are keeping their heads down too scared to do something about any of this. They're letting the country down just as much now as they did when in power, only in a different way. Few of them come out of this unholy mess looking anything other than weak and indecisive. Frankly it's pathetic.
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09-08-2016, 12:53
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Re: Corbyn's kerfuffle
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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu
All this is doing, is to increase the money that The Labour Party get. Which is wrong.
The Money that The labour Party gets comes from the Unions, donators - NT from people that want t see Jeremy Corbyn win another farcical election.
We want a leader elected by the Voter, at a General Election. The NEC is run by Unions and pen pushers.
Aren't these prats aware that Corbyn, will NEVER win a General Election. He is NOT strong enough to take on The Conservatives.
If there is a General Election would rather vote UKIP.
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As noted above, Corbyn was voted for by the members, and it seems there is at least circumstantial evidence that more have joined just to vote for him.
Personally, while I respect Jeremy Corbyn, and feel he does stand for his own beliefs (something sadly lacking in a lot of politicians), I don't think he is a good party leader. While he is undoubtedly a good MP, standing up for his constituents, that is not enough to be a party leader. He needs to lead the party. He has failed to do that through both severe cuts (which any decent political leader should have been able to use to massively increase the party's support), and the most important vote in 40 years.
He promised major changes in UK politics, and has failed to deliver.
The situation has got bad enough that his entire shadow cabinet resigned, quite possibly ending their own careers in politics in the process.
He needs to do one thing. He needs to step up and be a leader. He needs to fight for his party. If he can't do that, he needs to step aside and let someone take over who can.
Make no mistake: The Labour party is in danger. From what I can gather, it's likely that if Corbyn stays, the party will split. That's not good for Labour and it's not good for the country as it means the Conservatives will be running the country with no effective opposition. Although having said that, it's debatable how much opposition they have now.
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09-08-2016, 13:27
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Shame he doesn't stand up for his female MPs! Still, his is a caring type of politics......he couldn't care less that they are being threatened and abused by his followers
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09-08-2016, 14:14
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Re: Corbyn's kerfuffle
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Shame he doesn't stand up for his female MPs! Still, his is a caring type of politics......he couldn't care less that they are being threatened and abused by his followers
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Corbyn doesn't stand up for anything except his own outdated and flawed ideology. He's been a political hermit within Labour for so long that he can't change and never will.
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12-08-2016, 15:54
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Labour was within its rights to stop new members voting in its leadership contest, the Court of Appeal has ruled.
It found the party's rules give its National Executive Committee "the power to set the criteria for members to be eligible to vote".
The party challenged a High Court verdict blocking its plans to stop members who joined after 12 January from voting, unless they paid £25.
It means nearly 130,000 members will not be able to vote in the contest.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37057589
Oh dear.
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