Virgin Media to Double Broadband Speed - Page 24

Kushan · 11-01-2012, 13:14

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Originally Posted by pabscars

That's a missed opportunity if ever there was one

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The fallout from customers wouldn't be worth it, but rest assured Virgin will benefit from this. For one, if they only supply one type of Modem, they can order huge numbers of them, meaning each modem costs less. Furthermore, they won't have to support older modem types - which means training is easier (i.e. cheaper) and they won't need to keep their internal tools and software up to date for them. It'll cost a bit up front, but in the end Virgin will save money.

thenry · 11-01-2012, 13:28

first of all this is a good start PR wise but VM really need to push the SH.. think what you will of it, its security that needs priority first and foremost!

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Broadband Size : S (up to 2Mb) > Up to 5Mb
Broadband Size : M (up to 10Mb) > Up to 20Mb
Broadband Size : L (up to 10Mb) > Up to 20Mb
Broadband Size : XL (up to 20Mb or 30Mb) > Up to 60Mb
Broadband Size : XXL (up to 50Mb) > Up to 100Mb
Broadband Size : 100 (up to 100Mb) > Up to 120Mb – Note these increases will start from summer 2012

qasdfdsaq · 11-01-2012, 13:34

I'd expect early 2014 for me then. Still don't even have a proper 50mbit service yet, and that was supposed to finish being rolled out last year.

telfordcable · 11-01-2012, 13:35

It all wrong maths by VM:

Broadband Size : S (up to 2Mb) > Up to 5Mb
Broadband Size : M (up to 10Mb) > Up to 20Mb
Broadband Size : L (up to 10Mb) > Up to 20Mb
Broadband Size : XL (up to 20Mb or 30Mb) > Up to 60Mb
Broadband Size : XXL (up to 50Mb) > Up to 100Mb
Broadband Size : 100 (up to 100Mb) > Up to 120Mb – Note these increases will start from summer 2012

Should be like this:

Broadband Size : S (up to 2Mb) > Up to 4Mb
Broadband Size : M (up to 10Mb) > Up to 20Mb
Broadband Size : L (up to 10Mb) > Up to 20Mb
Broadband Size : XL (up to 20Mb or 30Mb) > Up to 60Mb
Broadband Size : XXL (up to 50Mb) > Up to 100Mb
Broadband Size : 100 (up to 100Mb) > Up to 200Mb – Note these increases will start from summer 2012

What happen to VM promise of 200 Meg ? I want 200 not 120 !

BenMcr · 11-01-2012, 13:36

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Originally Posted by thenry

its security that needs priority first and foremost!

What security?

qasdfdsaq · 11-01-2012, 13:36

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Originally Posted by Horizon

•20Mb and 30Mb increased to 60Mb

I wonder how this will pan out for 20mb users without a Superhub

BenMcr · 11-01-2012, 13:37

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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq

I wonder how this will pan out for 20mb users without a Superhub

They'll need one to get 60Mbit. Based on previous upgrades, anyone that needs new kit to get the new speed for their tier will get one for free

kwikbreaks · 11-01-2012, 13:37

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Originally Posted by Sirius

It might. I dont think there is much of a differance between 110 and 120, I want the reduction in price more than the upgrade.

I reckon they'll need to fix this one. I can't see people paying £10 (? is that correct) extra just for an additional 10% in headline speed which may well vanish in congesion anyway.

What hasn't been announced is the new traffic management which I thought would be linked with the headline speed upgrades - maybe there will be differentiation there.

I'm guessing that the limited max speed to 120Mbps reflects that they won't have 8 bonded downstreams across the network any time soon unless they are being sensible

and regard that increased bandwidth as congestion relief. I'm assuming extra channels being bonded would be significantly more available bandwidth per modem - I don't know enough about cable infrastructure to know that for sure though.

qasdfdsaq · 11-01-2012, 13:38

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Originally Posted by denphone

Obviously when it comes it comes but reading your post you say we will need a new modem as our speed will go from 30mb to 60mb.

30mb users will NOT need a new modem.

BenMcr · 11-01-2012, 13:38

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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq

30mb users will NOT need a new modem.

30Mbit customers with a VMDG300 might

P.S not saying they definately will, but it's a possibility

ynwa · 11-01-2012, 13:40

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Originally Posted by telfordcable

It all wrong maths by VM:

Broadband Size : S (up to 2Mb) > Up to 5Mb
Broadband Size : M (up to 10Mb) > Up to 20Mb
Broadband Size : L (up to 10Mb) > Up to 20Mb
Broadband Size : XL (up to 20Mb or 30Mb) > Up to 60Mb
Broadband Size : XXL (up to 50Mb) > Up to 100Mb
Broadband Size : 100 (up to 100Mb) > Up to 120Mb – Note these increases will start from summer 2012

Should be like this:

Broadband Size : S (up to 2Mb) > Up to 4Mb
Broadband Size : M (up to 10Mb) > Up to 20Mb
Broadband Size : L (up to 10Mb) > Up to 20Mb
Broadband Size : XL (up to 20Mb or 30Mb) > Up to 60Mb
Broadband Size : XXL (up to 50Mb) > Up to 100Mb
Broadband Size : 100 (up to 100Mb) > Up to 200Mb – Note these increases will start from summer 2012

What happen to VM promise of 200 Meg ? I want 200 not 120 !

Agree. If prices stay the same, why would i want to stay on the top service (120mb) when for a good bit less i can just drop to 100mb. Or am i missing something?

BenMcr · 11-01-2012, 13:42

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Originally Posted by ynwa

Agree. If prices stay the same, why would i want to stay on the top service (120mb) when for a good bit less i can just drop to 100mb. Or am i missing something?

Personally I can't see Virgin running a 100 and 120 tier

I think what is possibly more likely (personal guess here) is that everyone on 100Mbit will get a further increase to 120Mbit

qasdfdsaq · 11-01-2012, 13:42

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Originally Posted by Kushan

We're already at the limitations of a lot of consumer equipment. Despite Wireless "G" equipment being rated for 54Mbps, it's highly unlikely that anyone using it will get anywhere near it. Even if you're right next to your router, you're extremely lucky to hit 45Mbps. Move to another room and that'll drop below 30Meg.

Wireless G isn't capable of more than 25mbps at any distance. The technology simply does not allow it. You won't get 30 or 45 at any distance.

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It's a problem with the technology, but also that most people's equipment is just poor. Wireless-N is even worse in terms of advertised speeds vs real speeds. I've seen so many Wireless-N users sitting at around 72Mbit that it's not even funny.

Wrong. Wireless-N is far better in terms of advertised speeds vs real speeds. G will achieve 25 out of 54 at best. N will achieve 60 out of 72. 65/72 is the default, standard, basic rate of N. Speeds above 72/144 have to be disabled by default on most wifi certified devices.

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Same reasons - the equipment in use is often a cheap model that does the bare minimum to hit that Wireless-N standard.

No.

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Go ahead and look at most laptops on sale now - they're all wireless-N, but they'll only use 1x1 antennae, instead of the (much better) 3x3 arrangement, or even 1x3 that you need to hit the 300Mbit that Wireless-N is rated.

Completely wrong. Most laptops have 2x2, and 2x2 is 300mbit. 3x3 is 450, not 300. Wireless-N doesn't have any single speed rating (up to 600 is easily possible), just because 300 is the most common rating so far doesn't mean wireless-N is only 300.

Sirius · 11-01-2012, 13:45

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Originally Posted by kwikbreaks

I reckon they'll need to fix this one. I can't see people paying £10 (? is that correct) extra just for an additional 10% in headline speed which may well vanish in congesion anyway.

What hasn't been announced is the new traffic management which I thought would be linked with the headline speed upgrades - maybe there will be differentiation there.

I'm guessing that the limited max speed to 120Mbps reflects that they won't have 8 bonded downstreams across the network any time soon unless they are being sensible

and regard that increased bandwidth as congestion relief. I'm assuming extra channels being bonded would be significantly more available bandwidth per modem - I don't know enough about cable infrastructure to know that for sure though.

I am sure that a lot more information will flow over the next month, Be it by leaks or official announcements. Traffic management will i feel make or break this.

telfordcable · 11-01-2012, 13:46

Saw ispreview stated here:

Planned VirginMedia Download Speed Upgrades
* 10Mb increased to 20Mb [2Mbps Uploads]
* 20Mb and 30Mb increased to 60Mb [6Mbps Uploads]
* 50Mb increased to 100Mb [10Mbps Uploads]
* 100Mb increased to 120Mb [12Mbps Uploads]

Why is upload is really bad on top tied 120Mb ? Should be 40Mb upload but why 12Mb ??