Online Safety Bill

[GrimUpNorth]

Originally Posted by peanut

So a report out states that 'In 2021/22, 34% of young people aged 18 to 24 reported symptoms of a mental disorder, such as depression, anxiety or bipolar disorder.' & 'The research also found that 79% of 18 to 24 year olds who are "workless" due to ill health only have qualifications at GCSE level or below.'

Along with a report that states..'Turn up for an interview? We just couldn't be bothered, say a mind-blowing 93% of 18-24 year olds'

So what exactly is going wrong?

Still nothing on the actual causes or reasons for what's happening. Again why is that?? Is it online content, social media, influenced, snowflake generation that can't handle real life, rewarding losers, pandering, lack of discipline, lack of support (for what exactly)? Or just lost hope with the way things are in general?

I think lost hope with the way things are in general, and its not just the younger adults (our future), I see it in many other age groups too.

and ....

rewarding losers, pandering, lack of discipline

Plus, of course, they think they are entitled to do as they please, and get paid for doing nothing.

For the record, it doesnt apply to all 18 - 24 year olds.

[jfman]

Parents that can’t parent, an education system that measures everything against grades.

[RichardCoulter]

Social media is also being used to manipulate & interfere with elections in countries other than their own:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001wq29

Whilst proper political debate & discussion of ideas is a good thing, manipulation from other countries is not.

[peanut]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Whilst proper political debate & discussion of ideas is a good thing, manipulation from other countries is not.

Well you learn something new every day don't you.

[Itshim]

Originally Posted by peanut

Well you learn something new every day don't you.

Ha ha ha

[peanut]

'DR MARTIN SCURR: Get a grip, Generation Snowflake! I know what's causing 'rising tide' of mental health issues among the young... and who is to blame' - Daily Mail (sorry)

He does raise some valid points. But the comments are worth a read.

https://12ft.io/https://www.dailymai...ung-blame.html

[heero_yuy]

Originally Posted by jfman

Parents that can’t parent, an education system that measures everything against grades.

Parents that give their children an unrealistic expectation of success. Look, if you've got the mental ability of slug you're not going to be a brain surgeon, you'll be collecting the trolleys in the car park at Sainsbury's. No doubt with a Mickey Mouse degree in stupidity and a debt as well.

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by peanut

'DR MARTIN SCURR: Get a grip, Generation Snowflake! I know what's causing 'rising tide' of mental health issues among the young... and who is to blame' - Daily Mail (sorry)

He does raise some valid points. But the comments are worth a read.

https://12ft.io/https://www.dailymai...ung-blame.html

He does raise some valid points. He acknowledges that mental health needed to be destigmatised, but that self diagnosis or everyday normal parts of the human condition shouldn't be classed as a mental health condition.

Depression is more than being a bit fed up for a few days, anxiety is more than being nervous before a driving test and saying "I'm having an autistic moment" is insulting to those that actually suffer from it.

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy

Parents that give their children an unrealistic expectation of success. Look, if you've got the mental ability of slug you're not going to be a brain surgeon, you'll be collecting the trolleys in the car park at Sainsbury's. No doubt with a Mickey Mouse degree in stupidity and a debt as well.

I agree. We can't all be chiefs without anybody being the Indians & their contributions are just as important.

I always say that the brain surgeon wouldn't be able to get to work if the streets were full of rubbish because there were no road sweepers.

I also think that many parents these days don't prepare them for the real world. They are taught that they are special & important (they won't be to the majority out in the real world), that they have a right to hold & express an opinion to everyone (not always advisable to employers, the police etc.)

Before I retired I asked a new member of staff to empty the ashtrays out in the smoking area. "It's a filthy habit and I want nothing to do with it. I don't empty ashtrays". At the end of his trial period shift I told him that there was something else that he didn't do and that was work for us anymore.

A lot really think that they are doing employers a big favour by turning up for work at all.

The number that are basically illiterate (I blame spellchecker & text speak) is shocking, particularly when we're told that they are all leaving school with top grades.

https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article...t-young-adults

or ...

The rush to ‘diagnose and accommodate, not punish or reward’ has led to ‘the loneliest, most anxious, depressed and fearful generation on record’.

The modern emphasis on protecting and safeguarding has led us to our current predicament, where even the wrong use of pronouns makes some people ‘feel unsafe’.

[RichardCoulter]

This really shocked me:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...year-olds.html

Well some of them really do live fantasy land.

Nearly one in five of the Generation Z cohort said ghosting prospective employers was 'empowering' and allowed them to take charge of their careers.

What careers ? You actually have to have a job first, to have any chance of a career.

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

I agree. Despite Martin Lewis suing them for allowing people to falsely use his image to endorse scams, it's still going on.

Both the scammers and some websites really think that they can do as they please regardless of the law and the effects on people.

About 17 mins in Martin Lewis talks about how he campaigned for scam adverts to be included in the Online Safety Act.

He says that the problem now is that some people think that all adverts have been vetted when they haven't.

He advises people not to click on any advert on social media, especially if they involve investments as these are very likely to be a scam:

https://www.itv.com/watch/this-morni...60/1a1960a9664

[jfman]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

This really shocked me:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...year-olds.html

What's this got to do with online harm?