09-05-2012, 13:50
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Re: speedtest.net
as has been mentioned, checking from within the network proves nothing
mentioned above that 3rd parts speed tests can be erratic mostly means theres congestion somewhere between you and speed test server
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09-05-2012, 14:11
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Re: speedtest.net
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Originally Posted by craigj2k12
as has been mentioned, checking from within the network proves nothing
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Exactly. I've said dozens of times, if you want to know what your local connection speed is, check your modem status page.
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09-05-2012, 15:04
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Re: speedtest.net
I find speedtest to be pretty much useless across all its servers.
The speeds just arent at all accurate. If you've got an out of date or dodgy version of flash, it throws the results off, if the servers are being used by others, it throws the result off.
It's just too variable to be used as an accurate measure. Not a single one of them can measure 100mb performance either (at least today).
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09-05-2012, 15:20
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Re: speedtest.net
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Originally Posted by rmwebs
I find speedtest to be pretty much useless across all its servers.
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Define useless?
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Originally Posted by rmwebs
The speeds just arent at all accurate. If you've got an out of date or dodgy version of flash, it throws the results off, if the servers are being used by others, it throws the result off.
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just update flash?
And most of the servers are at least gigabit, some only 100mbit though
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Originally Posted by rmwebs
It's just too variable to be used as an accurate measure. Not a single one of them can measure 100mb performance either (at least today).
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Its not 100% accurate, but it gives a very good picture, and they are all capable of 100mbit, thats one of the requirements to host a server
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09-05-2012, 15:38
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Re: speedtest.net
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Originally Posted by craigj2k12
... and they are all capable of 100mbit, thats one of the requirements to host a server
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Which is a lot more than can be said for some VM peering links and a huge number of oversubscribed local areas.
If Speedtest.net (try more than one of their major servers) isn't showing you your headline speed on a wired connection with the Superhub in modem modem and either direct into a modern PC or through a reasonable quality router then the first suspect is probably VM. By all means try multiple file downloads from other sources but downloading from anything within the VM network eliminates peering which is probably to blame for as many problems as oversubscription IMO.
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09-05-2012, 16:23
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Re: speedtest.net
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Originally Posted by kwikbreaks
Which is a lot more than can be said for some VM peering links and a huge number of oversubscribed local areas.
If Speedtest.net (try more than one of their major servers) isn't showing you your headline speed on a wired connection with the Superhub in modem modem and either direct into a modern PC or through a reasonable quality router then the first suspect is probably VM. By all means try multiple file downloads from other sources but downloading from anything within the VM network eliminates peering which is probably to blame for as many problems as oversubscription IMO.
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my point exactly
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09-05-2012, 16:37
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Re: speedtest.net
And my point exactly.
VM's own local network != the internet. You don't buy an internet connection to access VM's internal network.
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09-05-2012, 20:24
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Re: speedtest.net
The engineer from Virgin who installed my new router 3 weeks ago suggested speedtest.net isn't reliable as there isn't many hosts in the UK who host a server which supports up to up to 100mb. According to the engineer, Preston is the best server for people to use when testing their 100mb connection.
I'm just repeating what I was told. I have no idea if it's the truth. I'm not really an internet guy in these forums, I tend to post over in the TV section
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09-05-2012, 20:58
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Re: speedtest.net
Most UK servers can do well over 100mb fine.
Most VM connections can't. That's a problem with the VM connection not the speedtest server.
Preston is one of the worst servers for VM customers, even though it's hosted on VM's network.
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09-05-2012, 22:12
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Re: speedtest.net
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Originally Posted by Chad
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This gives me 58MB - 60Mb every time I test. I like this one.
Speedtest.net still gives me around 20mb
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10-05-2012, 01:07
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Re: speedtest.net
You "like" a test because it gives you better results?
I "like" turning Kaspersky on and getting 250mbps results on a 50mb line. Doesn't make it any good though.
(Incidentally I get 10/20/46 on the BT test and 45 on Speedtest.net, just goes to show how good it is...)
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10-05-2012, 08:39
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Re: speedtest.net
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Originally Posted by Chad
The engineer from Virgin who installed my new router 3 weeks ago suggested speedtest.net isn't reliable as there isn't many hosts in the UK who host a server which supports up to up to 100mb. According to the engineer, Preston is the best server for people to use when testing their 100mb connection.
I'm just repeating what I was told. I have no idea if it's the truth. I'm not really an internet guy in these forums, I tend to post over in the TV section
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10-05-2012, 13:15
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Re: speedtest.net
Back to my point - it IS unreliable.
Yes, the servers can support 100mbps, but only when its not busy.
As an example, I did a test on the maidenhead server. I got a 25mb result.
I did a test less than a minute later on another server (Manchester) and got my full 100mb.
I then did all the UK tests - not a single other one of them could get up to 100.
You're deluded if you actually think these tests give any form of accurate result, its simply not possible to do it when you've got umpty-dozen other people doing tests too.
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10-05-2012, 13:22
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Re: speedtest.net
No, they're perfectly accurate, you're just deluded in what you think they're supposed to measure.
It's your internet connection that cannot support 100mbps when it is busy, not the speedtest server.
Lancaster gives over 500mbps at peak times even with the umpty-dozen other tests it is doing. Manchester does over 350 and Maidenhead over 300.
Here's a list of nearby Speedtest.net servers that can do over 100, all tests were done at peak time.
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Server Country Download Upload Ping 20/30mb 50/60mb 100/120mb
Lancaster UK 520.7 278.9 5 Yes Yes Yes
Luxembourg LU 304.8 226.9 18 Yes Yes
Massy FR 297.2 225.4 21 Yes Yes Yes
Manchester UK 246.2 158.8 11 Yes Yes Yes
Contern LU 235.4 211.0 19 Yes Yes Yes
Naaldwijk NL 220.6 161.0 25 Yes Yes Yes
Malmo DK 207.8 149.1 34 Yes Yes Yes
Merzig LU 196.8 157.2 31 Yes Yes Yes
Steinsel LU 196.7 228.2 19 Yes Yes Yes
Mechelen BE 192.9 182.6 27 Yes Yes Yes
Alkmaar NL 184.9 160.5 26 Yes Yes Yes
Clichy FR 183.4 190.1 19 Yes Yes Yes
Eindhoven NL 167.7 170.8 28 Yes Yes Yes
Bonneville FR 163.5 160.2 30 Yes Yes Yes
Aubervilliers FR 158.9 211.6 21 Yes Yes Yes
Paris FR 115.3 127.5 22 Yes Yes
Lyon FR 106.3 175.5 30 Yes Yes
Cappelle Ij NL 364.5 36.4 21 Yes Yes Yes
Maidstone UK 277.8 57.6 11 Yes Yes Yes
Kingston UH UK 262.0 36.9 20 Yes Yes Yes
Rotterdam Qweb NL 248.5 51.5 20 Yes Yes Yes
Capelle NL 243.2 51.5 31 Yes Yes Yes
Roubaix FR 205.7 46.2 15 Yes Yes
Randers DK 188.3 54.3 39 Yes Yes Yes
Bournemouth UK 167.4 26.2 13 Yes Yes Yes
Veendam NL 167.2 16.6 22 Yes Yes
London UK 138.0 36.7 11 Yes Yes Yes
Dublin Eircom IE 137.7 16.6 30 Yes Yes
Ashford UK 128.3 42.3 12 Yes Yes
Sittingbourne UK 123.0 51.2 12 Yes Yes
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10-05-2012, 13:23
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Re: speedtest.net
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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq
You "like" a test because it gives you better results?
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Maybe I should have put a smiley on it.
An update:
wired via speedtest.net: 14MB Down, 2.7Up
wired via bbc: 63 MB Down
wired via playstation3: 18MB Down, 2.1 Up
wired via http://www.broadbandspeedchecker.co.uk/ : 40MB UP 2.6MB Down
These speedtests are a load of crunk.
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