Football World Cup 2010 - Pre Tournament start

[SB_07]

Originally Posted by Kymmy

We??? Oh you mean England

Just remember that not everyone supports England

lol good point. It would def make for a tasty group though.

[Kymmy]

The Draw live TV program starts in 20 minutes (BBC2 17:15 or on the web)

Best of luck everyone

[Shadow Demon UK]

Originally Posted by Russ

OK you seem to be under the impression I said the other nations should get coverage.

I haven't said that.

What I would like to see is a change from the normal practice of assuming the whole of the UK is will be supporting England. Whereas many probably will, a sizeable amount won't care whether they win or lose.

Which is why they get so much covergae.


I hope we get France

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Russ

OK you seem to be under the impression I said the other nations should get coverage.

I haven't said that.

My mistake, it's just when you said

a month of the newspapers forgetting other national teams exist in the UK

I assumed you were talking about the actual countries national teams rather than which ever nation you pick out of a hat/have a distant relative from/ enjoyed a holiday at, to support.

What I would like to see is a change from the normal practice of assuming the whole of the UK is will be supporting England. Whereas many probably will, a sizeable amount won't care whether they win or lose

So the majority have their coverage curtailed for the minority that aren't even participating and I seem to remember the Republic of Ireland getting a fair amount of coverage each time they qualified and they aren't even part of the Union.

Besides it could be worse. North Korea are only reporting anything on the World Cup if their team wins....

[Russ]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

So the majority have their coverage curtailed for the minority that aren't even participating and I seem to remember the Republic of Ireland getting a fair amount of coverage each time they qualified and they aren't even part of the Union.

Again, I haven't said that. The media has always been England-centric anyway and it gets worse at the World Cup. If Wales ever made it to the finals (ha! The FAW have measures in place to ensure that doesn't happen) would we get souvenir editions of The Sun? Special pull-out posters of the boyos in The Mirror? Nope.

As I've said, you don't notice it because you're used to it.

[Hom3r]

Here Live now

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ls/8391833.stm

[Charlie_Bubble]

Originally Posted by Russ

Again, I haven't said that. The media has always been England-centric anyway and it gets worse at the World Cup. If Wales ever made it to the finals (ha! The FAW have measures in place to ensure that doesn't happen) would we get souvenir editions of The Sun? Special pull-out posters of the boyos in The Mirror? Nope.

As I've said, you don't notice it because you're used to it.

Deja vu. I seem to remember you trot this argument out every time a big football competition comes around. The reason England get all the tabloid inches are as follows: The major newspapers in the UK are based in London, England. England has the biggest population of all the UK home countries & therefore target readship. England has the best football team of all the UK home countries, i.e. consistently qualifying for major championships. England's players are household names, not only in this country, but around the world and whatever you say or think, people do want to read about them. Many people outside Wales, NI or Scotland would struggle to name a single player from any of those teams. Enjoy your summer next year supporting England!

[SB_07]

Oh yes we got USA!

Group G looks immense.

Group C: ENGLAND, United States, Algeria, Slovenia

[Kymmy]

Group H: Spain, Switzerland, Honduras, Chile

Group G: Brazil, North Korea, Ivory Coast, Portugal (New Group of Death)

Group F: Italy, Paraguay, New Zealand, Slovakia

Group E: Netherlands, Denmark, Japan, Cameroon

Group D: Germany, Australia, Serbia Ghana (Group of Death?)

Group C: ENGLAND, United States, Algeria, Slovenia

Group B: Argentina, Nigeria, South Korea, Greece

Group A: South Africa, Mexico, Uruguay, France

[SB_07]

Going to be tough for Germany.

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Pick of the group games on paper?

England v USA
Brazil v Portugal
France v Mexico
Netherlands v Cameroon
Germany v Australia

[Kymmy]

I think SA at home will play well with all thier fans behind them

Brazil/Portugal/Ivory Coast is one hell of a group!

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Charlie_Bubble

Deja vu. I seem to remember you trot this argument out every time a big football competition comes around. The reason England get all the tabloid inches are as follows: The major newspapers in the UK are based in London, England. England has the biggest population of all the UK home countries & therefore target readship. England has the best football team of all the UK home countries, i.e. consistently qualifying for major championships. England's players are household names, not only in this country, but around the world and whatever you say or think, people do want to read about them. Many people outside Wales, NI or Scotland would struggle to name a single player from any of those teams. Enjoy your summer next year supporting England!

And I remember you trotting out the same argument back - to which I said back then perhaps the newspapers should give us Celts a discount on the cover price or even charge you more - after all you lot earn the most out of the UK nations

Thing is though Wales has a better rugby team yet your national rugby team still gets more coverage so success seems to have little to do with it - enjoy the next few years getting beaten by Wales again

[Shadow Demon UK]

Group G and D look like they are going to be great, you can see any of the teams from group D getting through.

I don't think England could have hoped for a much better draw than that.