31-01-2021, 08:45
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Really? It was the main news item yesterday on BBC, Channel 4 and led almost all the newspapers this morning.
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Agreed, fake news that it wasn't. It's all over the mainstream media as you might expect - the two biggest stories of the past year - Covid 19 and Brexit - dovetailed into one story.
Today's newspapers continue the theme https://news.sky.com/story/sundays-n...pages-12203961
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31-01-2021, 10:18
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Really? It was the main news item yesterday on BBC, Channel 4 and led almost all the newspapers this morning.
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
Agreed, fake news that it wasn't. It's all over the mainstream media as you might expect - the two biggest stories of the past year - Covid 19 and Brexit - dovetailed into one story.
Today's newspapers continue the theme https://news.sky.com/story/sundays-n...pages-12203961
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Fake news? What are you on about?
When I posted that, yesterday, on the Sky website and BBC website it was not the leading story, yes it was being talked about but nothing was being made about the seriousness of what the EU did, indeed Tony Blair was on tv just this morning glossing over it.
The EU have shown their true selves, at the first drop of a hat. Imagine some future emergency/issue the EU have shown they would blockade the U.K. and divide Ireland without consulting anyone, not even The Rep of Ireland as their first, not last, resort.
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31-01-2021, 12:03
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Re: Britain outside the EU
I doubt there be a repeat of this nature.
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31-01-2021, 15:20
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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When I posted that, yesterday, on the Sky website and BBC website it was not the leading story, yes it was being talked about but nothing was being made about the seriousness of what the EU did, indeed Tony Blair was on tv just this morning glossing over it.
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It was the front page of The Guardian, The Times, The Sun, The Telegraph, The Mirror and the Daily Mail as well as the lead story on Channel 4 News and BBC News at Ten on Friday evening.
The EU behaved terribly and almost everyone is angry at them but I don't understand the argument that the media weren't talking about it. The EU blocking vaccine thing has been a story for days but as soon as they did the block on Friday it was a huge story that was the No 1 focus even on pro-European publications.
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31-01-2021, 15:47
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Originally Posted by Damien
It was the front page of The Guardian, The Times, The Sun, The Telegraph, The Mirror and the Daily Mail as well as the lead story on Channel 4 News and BBC News at Ten on Friday evening.
The EU behaved terribly and almost everyone is angry at them but I don't understand the argument that the media weren't talking about it. The EU blocking vaccine thing has been a story for days but as soon as they did the block on Friday it was a huge story that was the No 1 focus even on pro-European publications.
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Damien is right Pierre, they even wheeled out Blair today, to have him dis the EU.
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31-01-2021, 16:24
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Re: Britain outside the EU
I am glad to be out the EU. but born and brought up in Scotland ,I do not want to leave the United Kingdom. My worst nightmare would be Independence for Scotland. S N P are ruining Scotland and the sooner they are out the better. They are a cult that i do not want.
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31-01-2021, 16:50
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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My worst nightmare would be Independence for Scotland. S N P are ruining Scotland and the sooner they are out the better.
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You just need to convince the majority of Scottish voters.
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31-01-2021, 17:05
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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You just need to convince the majority of Scottish voters.
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It beggars belief that unionist politicians have not highlighted the fact that separation from the UK will cripple their bank balance.
I really don’t know how likely it is that the EU would welcome Scotland with open arms. The EU have just lost one of their net contributors. If Scotland were to re-join on their own, they would be a drain on an EU budget already under strain.
The vaccination fiasco is likely to have served as a wake-up call to EU countries, and this could lead to a serious campaign either to leave the bloc or to reform it. So Scotland might find itself going in the wrong direction if an exodus does take place.
Personally, I think the EU will simply implode. Thank God we are out.
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31-01-2021, 17:23
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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It beggars belief that unionist politicians have not highlighted the fact that separation from the UK will cripple their bank balance.
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What makes you think they haven’t? The 2014 campaign dealt with it extensively and the topic comes up annually when GERS (Government Expenditure and Revenue Scotland) is published - this routinely lays bare the massive deficit between Scottish tax income and expenditure. Believe it or not, in the absence of a comprehensive political campaign (I.e. another referendum) people responding to opinion pollsters aren’t giving a complete, measured response to the leave/remain question. They’re telling you how they feel, based on whatever factors are to the fore.
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I really don’t know how likely it is that the EU would welcome Scotland with open arms. The EU have just lost one of their net contributors. If Scotland were to re-join on their own, they would be a drain on an EU budget already under strain.
The vaccination fiasco is likely to have served as a wake-up call to EU countries, and this could lead to a serious campaign either to leave the bloc or to reform it. So Scotland might find itself going in the wrong direction if an exodus does take place.
Personally, I think the EU will simply implode. Thank God we are out.
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There has been some evidence this week that Germany in particular is out for revenge over Brexit. It’s hard to make logical sense, otherwise, of their inept attempts to smear the AstraZeneca vaccine first in one of their more compliant newspapers and then through their “independent” medicines regulator who has somehow come to a different conclusion to every other independent expert in the world who has been asked to certify it. Be in no doubt that whatever ambivalence there might be elsewhere about Scotland’s membership of the EU, it will have a friend in Berlin, which feels very strongly that there’s unfinished business to be done with London.
The SNP does of course have form when it comes to trying to use Germany to help it get one over the British government.
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31-01-2021, 17:24
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Originally Posted by Mick
Damien is right Pierre, they even wheeled out Blair today, to have him dis the EU.
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I did say that in my post this morning. He didn’t really dis them though did he?
I watched his interview on Sky.
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31-01-2021, 19:48
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Originally Posted by Chris
What makes you think they haven’t? The 2014 campaign dealt with it extensively and the topic comes up annually when GERS (Government Expenditure and Revenue Scotland) is published - this routinely lays bare the massive deficit between Scottish tax income and expenditure. Believe it or not, in the absence of a comprehensive political campaign (I.e. another referendum) people responding to opinion pollsters aren’t giving a complete, measured response to the leave/remain question. They’re telling you how they feel, based on whatever factors are to the fore.
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Seem to remember being told repeatedly brexit was a feeling and people didn t care if they ended up poorer to achieve it, for me the real brexit dividend would be Scotland leaving the union and would have made the whole process worthwhile
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31-01-2021, 20:38
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Seem to remember being told repeatedly brexit was a feeling and people didn t care if they ended up poorer to achieve it, for me the real brexit dividend would be Scotland leaving the union and would have made the whole process worthwhile
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Thing is if we all keep 'exiting', we'll end up like San Marino, but with less influence. United we win, divided we fall, whether its the EU or the UK.
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31-01-2021, 23:23
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Thing is if we all keep 'exiting', we'll end up like San Marino, but with less influence. United we win, divided we fall, whether its the EU or the UK.
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Brexit was a win, as the vaccine fiasco proves. However, separation for Scotland would not be sensible at all. There are simply no advantages unless spite is seen as an advantage.
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31-01-2021, 23:35
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Brexit was a win, as the vaccine fiasco proves. However, separation for Scotland would not be sensible at all. There are simply no advantages unless spite is seen as an advantage.
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We could have run our own vaccines programme as an EU member. It was not compulsory to be a part of the EU one.
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31-01-2021, 23:37
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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We could have run our own vaccines programme as an EU member. It was not compulsory to be a part of the EU one.
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It would have been politically very difficult and given that David Cameron would probably still be the PM, I’d say also very unlikely.
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