Tivo V6 : Virgin Media V6 - Powered by TiVo(new STB)

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Rob

Would a HDMI splitter work?

To do what? It wouldn't do both tasks of duplicating and converting. One output could go to a TV and the other could go to distribution setup of whatever sort.

[Rob]

To go to 2 TVs , would both be able to view same thing.

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Rob

To go to 2 TVs , would both be able to view same thing.

Yes.

[Wild Oscar]

Originally Posted by MisterQ

"TiVo features: Record three shows and watch a fourth"

I'm still amazed that people can find that many programs worth watching!!

meanwhile I'm spinning Jack The Lad on the turntable ... lovely ..

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Wild Oscar

I'm still amazed that people can find that many programs worth watching!!

meanwhile I'm spinning Jack The Lad on the turntable ... lovely ..

A household can have a lot of varied tastes and at certain times extra tuners are definitely needed as there are clashes sadly.

[BenMcr]

Originally Posted by MisterQ

Interesting to know that it is not done locally on the box as it was originally, before VM messed around with them. Thanks. They always used to be clever and useful the way Tivo designed it but after it stopped working altogether when VM "made it better" it was never the same again and I like many others then switched them off for good. Shame! I guess there could be financial advantages in being able to control which programs get suggested!!?

Still think it won't be long before targeted adverts start appearing on the menu and pause screens though. Never mind, I'm sure some people will enjoy them. The US still have the option to opt out I understand.

Not sure what you mean, Virgin Media haven't changed the way the TiVo system collects data. TiVo US do exactly the same thing. Aggregated data on Thumbs and viewing is what drives the Suggestions engine and other personlisation options for TiVo

http://tivo.pactsafe.io/legal.html#privacy-policy

Information we automatically collect may include, for example, data about your viewing behavior (such as how you use, watch, record, rate and interact with content accessed on or through TiVo products), device (such as model number, software versions, and unique device identifiers), location (such as GPS data, zip code, and time zone), and cable service (such as cable provider and cable channels).

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy

What a useless bit of kit then. Forcing people to add yet another box to get TV circulated around the home. -10000 points.

I seem to recall similar comments when the RF out connection was removed on both Virgin and Sky STBs. Yet I doubt anyone would expect a box released in 2016 to have RF on it.

[Ddonald2016]

So how can we archieve material on v6

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Ddonald2016

So how can we archieve material on v6

We're not allowed to say.

A Freeview recorder should be able to archive material in SD quality.

[Mad Max]

I think people need to get out more!

Originally Posted by Kabaal

But a V8 sounds better

Especially when you slap a supercharger on and force feed it 1.5 gallons of Nitro per second

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Originally Posted by MisterQ

You would have thought they would have updated the terms and conditions.

"TiVo features: Record three shows and watch a fourth"

Here come the targeted adverts we have been hearing about:

"Information about your TiVo use: By having the and/or using the TiVo service you give us your consent to use your viewing information to personalise your TiVo experience (in addition to the other purposes set out in our privacy policy). We may share this information with third parties..."

P.S. No ideas what "By having the and/or using" means.

If you go and have a look through some of the info pages you will see a line which says

Opted in = True

This means everything you do on the box is reported back to them.

On the real Tivo (old original silver box) you could set this to FALSE.

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Originally Posted by Rob

Hi everyone first post here. I got the new V6 box installed today and the speed is great compared to the old tivo box.

Just one problem, in the old Tivo box I used HDMI port to main tv and Scart (21 pin?) cable to Kitchen tv. In the V6 box there is no 21 pin scart and not sure what the scart output (9 pin) thing is. Since there is only 1 hdmi port , anyone have a idea to what I can do, use a scart coverter or something?

You might want to send it back as you are out of luck my son, the scart is disabled.

Progress is always forwards you know

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Originally Posted by BenMcr

[snip]

Those terms have been in since TiVo first launched on VM. TiVo's suggestions and Thumbs wouldn't work without the consent.

Unless they've completely rewritten the underlying code base from the original that simply isn't true, on the old real Tivo suggestions worked perfectly with Opted in switched off.

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Originally Posted by Kabaal

Don't be melodramatic, scart is very old tech and has no place in today's world. It has to be phased out sometime.

You speak for yourself.

I have a VHS player with a built in DVD burner, that's SCART.

How do you plan to archive shows off your latest shiny-shiny..oh yes, you CAN'T

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Originally Posted by Ddonald2016

OK so does that mean copying recordings is now not allowed

The law specifically allows it (for personal use only blah blah) but VM (and Sky also?) have seen fit to block your legal rights.

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Originally Posted by nomadking

Doesn't Macrovison copy protection prevent that anyway?

Can't stop you putting it onto VHS, take it out of the machine and hand it so someone else

Or even transfer to a DVD recorder...see, some of us have abandoned old fashioned tape...

[BenMcr]

Originally Posted by OhReally

Unless they've completely rewritten the underlying code base from the original that simply isn't true, on the old real Tivo suggestions worked perfectly with Opted in switched off.

Which they did:

https://support.tivo.com/articles/Fe...ls-and-Privacy

If you have a TiVo Series2 or Series3 DVR and opt out, we will not collect your viewing logs.

If you have a TiVo Series4 or newer TiVo product (e.g. TiVo Mini, TiVo Roamio or TiVo BOLT) and choose "Do not share" as your privacy status, we will still collect your viewing logs, but will use them only to provide you with features of the TiVo service as described in this policy (for example, to suggest a particular TV show that you may enjoy).

The VM term covers the collection of the logs for the TiVo features, and sharing of that data in aggregated form. As the term does then say:

This will not personally identify you. This aggregated data may be used by those third parties for marketing purposes.

It's just that there isn't a specific opt out of the aggregated data when you have V6 or TiVo with Virgin Media - but again that's been true from the start.

Originally Posted by OhReally

The law specifically allows it (for personal use only blah blah) but VM (and Sky also?) have seen fit to block your legal rights.

The law specifically allows a copy for time-shifting purposes NOT for archiving.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/exceptions-to-copyright

Time-shifting
A recording of a broadcast can be made in domestic premises for private and domestic use to enable it to be viewed or listened to at a more convenient time.

The making of a recording of a broadcast for purposes other than to time-shift a programme for you or your family is likely to be illegal.

By having a Virgin Media PVR (or any other PVR) you're already time-shifting. There is no legal right to make a further copy.

[Ddonald2016]

Originally Posted by nomadking

We're not allowed to say.

A Freeview recorder should be able to archive material in SD quality.

Yeah but with v6 there is no scart

Originally Posted by BenMcr

The law specifically allows a copy for time-shifting purposes NOT for archiving.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/exceptions-to-copyright

Archiving is just extended time-shifting

I agree you can't give a copy to someone else.

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Ddonald2016

Yeah but with v6 there is no scart

Freeview recorders don't always record from external sources anyway. They do allow you to record/archive the Freeview channels.

[Ddonald2016]

Originally Posted by nomadking

Freeview recorders don't always record from external sources anyway. They do allow you to record/archive the Freeview channels.

Hi no Mine does record from TiVo or did