Will Scotland Leave the UK?
08-09-2014, 20:26
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
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Originally Posted by greeninferno
Calm Anyone who believes a two thirds say no has turned into 50/50 or worse overnight needs their head examined.
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Hello Alistair. Have you not some important damage limitation to be getting on with?
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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet
It's rather pathetic really. Dread to think what they'll manage to extract from rUK either way going by the ridiculously sycophantic way Osborne et al are desperately trying to suck up to the Scots and beg them to vote no. I'd be more inclined to vote yes on the grounds that I don't want to be ruled by such a spineless, nerveless bunch.
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Agreed.
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08-09-2014, 20:34
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
Faith is restored that Scotland will vote No, as Gordon Brown has got involved now
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Scottish independence: Brown sets out more powers timetable
Former prime minister Gordon Brown has set out a timetable for boosting the Scottish Parliament's powers if voters reject independence.
Mr Brown said a "No" vote would be the "starting gun" for Holyrood to be handed greater control over finance, welfare and taxation.
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The curse of Brown!
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08-09-2014, 21:35
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
A cautionary tale from the other side of the pond:
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/08/op...heck.html?_r=2
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Originally Posted by Damien
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TNS poll are Yes 38, No 39, DK 23 if social media speculation is to be believed.
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08-09-2014, 21:49
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
It should simply be about membership of the union as it is now, if we have to bribe them to stay then every scot should vote yes and be done with it. Our whole political class has been pathetic during this whole process and have shown such low calibre we should get the general election early to vote the lot the lot of them out. The damage is largely done socially there is a huge dislike of each other on both sides of the border that will carry on long after this all finishes however it finishes. Ruk will take a hit if Scotland goes but not as big as Scotland will and ruk has the means to recover from it not sure the same can be said for Scotland.
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08-09-2014, 21:54
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
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Originally Posted by RizzyKing
It should simply be about membership of the union as it is now, if we have to bribe them to stay then every scot should vote yes and be done with it. Our whole political class has been pathetic during this whole process and have shown such low calibre we should get the general election early to vote the lot the lot of them out. The damage is largely done socially there is a huge dislike of each other on both sides of the border that will carry on long after this all finishes however it finishes. Ruk will take a hit if Scotland goes but not as big as Scotland will and ruk has the means to recover from it not sure the same can be said for Scotland.
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You're forgetting Salmond's 'arc of prosperity'...
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08-09-2014, 22:35
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
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Originally Posted by RizzyKing
It should simply be about membership of the union as it is now, if we have to bribe them to stay then every scot should vote yes and be done with it. Our whole political class has been pathetic during this whole process and have shown such low calibre we should get the general election early to vote the lot the lot of them out. The damage is largely done socially there is a huge dislike of each other on both sides of the border that will carry on long after this all finishes however it finishes. Ruk will take a hit if Scotland goes but not as big as Scotland will and ruk has the means to recover from it not sure the same can be said for Scotland.
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What he said.
Shameful, bribing people to stay in ffs
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08-09-2014, 23:03
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
Consequences are too big not too at this point. I am not a massive fan of offering this so late, I would rather the Government prepare for separation in case. Still the shock and ramifications of a Yes vote are immense enough than they'll do whatever they reasonably can.
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08-09-2014, 23:04
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
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Originally Posted by Chad
A cautionary tale from the other side of the pond:
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/08/op...heck.html?_r=2
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TNS poll are Yes 38, No 39, DK 23 if social media speculation is to be believed.
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The Daily Record gave it as a tie at 41% each, implying 18% don't know, but they only mentioned it in passing so it's unclear whether they had the press release yet.
Nobody else has broken the embargo so we may just have to wait until after midnight to get some clarity.
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08-09-2014, 23:11
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
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Originally Posted by heero_yuy
For me this is why the Scots should vote Yes. We can consign the Liebour party to the dustbin of politics for the next half century.
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How many elections have labour won thanks solely to Scotland?
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08-09-2014, 23:11
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08-09-2014, 23:27
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
Scottish independence: What happens if Scotland votes yes?
"In the two-year Scottish referendum campaign, Whitehall and Westminster have been in denial about the prospect of Scotland voting Yes to independence. Suddenly, as the opinion polls show it as a very real prospect, the London-based political establishment is anxiously thinking about the implications. “The consequences, not just for England, but Wales and Northern Ireland, are frankly unimaginable,” one senior Whitehall official said today. This is not an obscure debate about more devolution: some MPs fear the peace process in Northern Ireland, or at least order on the streets, could be at risk, and that there could be new demands for a united Ireland. There would inevitably be calls for a stronger Welsh Assembly, more devolution to the English regions and even an English Parliament."
The Indy
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09-09-2014, 00:54
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
I decided to vote No from the start as I think it will be a disaster for Scotland. But the polls seem to be changing towards the yessers now I am getting very worried. The are cheating and lying and causing a split among the people of Scotland. I cannot understand how people cannot see through. Salmond and that they are being conned.
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09-09-2014, 01:09
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
Simple its called selfishness they are getting told what they want to hear and not bothering to go any deeper then that all their dreams will start to come true just a day after the vote and utopia will be theirs. It's easy for the SNP they can spout whatever nonsense they want don't have to believe it or even plan to implement it just get independence. Once they have that it will be too late for Scotland to wake up and realise they were sold a pup as once out your not coming back. Damage of this campaign has not come home to roost and the rhetoric that has implemented by the SNP has not gone down well abroad at all tourism might well take a big dip as a result of all this as Scotland hasn't come across as very friendly. Granted I base that on how my friends from all over the world have spoken and its an aspect I don't think many have taken into account. Personally if enough are stupid enough to swallow the SNP rubbish they will reap what they have down.
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09-09-2014, 01:16
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
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Originally Posted by nashville
I decided to vote No from the start as I think it will be a disaster for Scotland. But the polls seem to be changing towards the yessers now I am getting very worried. The are cheating and lying and causing a split among the people of Scotland. I cannot understand how people cannot see through. Salmond and that they are being conned.
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Ditto ... I just cannot understand why people are believing Salmond. I think Yes voters are making a big mistake just my opinion.
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09-09-2014, 01:38
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Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
Someone was saying earlier that the Scots can always come back in four or five years if it doesn't work.out err says who, the go they stay gone imo
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