UK Timeline Doctor Who : Season 6 - Page 13

carlwaring · 31-05-2011, 19:51

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I need to watch the end of that episode again, there was a leap or two that didn't compute

Such as?

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I watched it again, I assume it'll be explained in a future episode.

What will?

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What was the point of the redesign then?

Dunno. Guess he had to use them at least once. It was Matt's first series after all

BenMcr · 31-05-2011, 19:55

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Dunno. Guess he had to use them at least once. It was Matt's first series after all

Another example of the change everything to do with the RTD years

Pierre · 31-05-2011, 20:15

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Originally Posted by carlwaring

Such as?

How the Dr knew Amy was a facsimile

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What will?

please see above

I can see that you're one of those really annoying people. I may have to use my ignore button

BenMcr · 31-05-2011, 20:26

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How the Dr knew Amy was a facsimile

Because he already knew of 'The Flesh' and what it was. The reason he went there is to find out whether you could mistake one for Human.

Which is why he allowed The Flesh to copy him in the first place and then swapped with 'The Flesh Doctor', to see if Amy would treat the The Flesh version the same as him if she though it was him - as they had been doing with Amy

Pierre · 31-05-2011, 21:06

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Because he already knew of 'The Flesh' and what it was. The reason he went there is to find out whether you could mistake one for Human.

Which is why he allowed The Flesh to copy him in the first place and then swapped with 'The Flesh Doctor', to see if Amy would treat the The Flesh version the same as him if she though it was him - as they had been doing with Amy

But that still doesn't explain how he knew.

I like to think I'm not particularly slow, in fact I take pride in being able follow complicated plot lines.

I even understood Donnie Darko.

I don't think the end of that episode was sufficiently easy to follow, for me anyway. But what do I know, I still thought Rory was an Auton.

For me, there's not enough craft in the story telling at the moment.

carlwaring · 31-05-2011, 22:08

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How the Dr knew Amy was a facsimile

Well yeah. That's one thing. I thought there were more

BenMcr · 31-05-2011, 22:51

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But that still doesn't explain how he knew.

Can agree with that. Would have been better to have the last two episodes right after the season opening, and then the end of the episode triggered by something else.

Would have tracked a bit better. We know the Doctor knows about The Flesh and that he knows something is wrong with Amy etc

**Damien** · 01-06-2011, 08:58

Should we read into Rory backing away from Amy at the Doctor's Insistence? It seemed quite odd, you would have expected him to offer more resistance. Does it mean he trusts the Doctor without question or was it simply a narrative convenience?

Stephen · 01-06-2011, 09:15

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How the Dr knew Amy was a facsimile

Simply the Doctor is a genius and knew straight after running the scan on Amy that something wasn't right

As he knew about the Flesh he wanted to go check it out. That's why he planned on dropping Amy and Rory off so he could go investigate.

Stuart · 01-06-2011, 09:39

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Simply the Doctor is a genius and knew straight after running the scan on Amy that something wasn't right

Which would be why they made a point of showing the pregnancy scan being inconclusive in several episodes..

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As he knew about the Flesh he wanted to go check it out. That's why he planned on dropping Amy and Rory off so he could go investigate.

Indeed.. The team (under Steven Moffat) seem to be very good at introducing little, apparently insignificant, details into stories that only become significant when you've seen later episodes.

Stephen · 01-06-2011, 10:18

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-13594932

Woop!

They aren't really going to be gone for that long.

Moffat tweeted yesterday and responded simply by saying they are taking a rest for this series. Yet again the press have totally exagerated the story and made it bigger than it needed to be.

Pierre · 01-06-2011, 10:22

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Indeed.. The team (under Steven Moffat) seem to be very good at introducing little, apparently insignificant, details into stories that only become significant when you've seen later episodes.

There's subtlety and there's subtlety.

I'm all for putting in clues and nuggets of information throughout a story arc, bad wolf and all that.

And fair enough for having a go, I just think it was done poorly.

IMO, it was either written badly or delivered badly.

For things such as this the big reveal should come at the end with a:

"I knew there was something going on, so that's it" - moment for the viewer.

Not - "WTF just happened there, I don't get it" Then have to watch the scene several times again to get a part understanding.

The story shouldn't have to rely on

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Simply the Doctor is a genius

and for the viewer to faithfully just accept whatever happens.

Obviously Amy has been gone for at least 7-8 months.

Who's taken her, where has she gone, for what purpose.

I know that will all no doubt be explained, but there should have been an incident that has happened in a previous episode that facilitated her abduction, and that at the moment the doctor revealed this Amy to be a copy, the audience could go " I bet she was taken in that episode when..........."

They should even have thrown a curve so you thought you knew when she had been taken but it turned out to be some other time.

If you follow me.

The end of that last episode just seemed rushed and just didn't do it for me.

carlwaring · 01-06-2011, 10:25

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Moffat tweeted yesterday and responded simply by saying they are taking a rest for this series. Yet again the press have totally exagerated the story and made it bigger than it needed to be.

Now there's a shock; not

Stephen · 01-06-2011, 10:25

She was taken at the start of the series by the silents. It was fairly obvious really. It was not too subtle at all.

As soon as Amy told the doc she was pregnant then later in the episode said she wasn't, that is when he ran the scan and knew something was not right with her.

carlwaring · 01-06-2011, 10:26

I should have spotted that