26-03-2024, 07:00
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
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Well when I ask the bank for a secured loan or mortgage, the bank looks at the property or item I’m securing the loan against and makes decision on whether their loan is secure or not.
If I went to Barclays and asked for a £550,000 mortgage to buy a 2up 2down mid-terrace house in Huddersfield, I’m pretty sure that would be looked into further.
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Yes, but then you haven’t spent most of your life carrying the reputation of a super-successful billionaire property mogul.
Let’s at least try to remember we’re talking about a court judgement here, arrived at through due process, and not merely something Trump has been accused of in some dank corner of the internet. And that ‘corrupt judges’ is another Trump campaign line rather than anything with substance to it.
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26-03-2024, 11:42
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
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Yes, but then you haven’t spent most of your life carrying the reputation of a super-successful billionaire property mogul.
Let’s at least try to remember we’re talking about a court judgement here, arrived at through due process, and not merely something Trump has been accused of in some dank corner of the internet. And that ‘corrupt judges’ is another Trump campaign line rather than anything with substance to it.
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Trump was found guilty of falsifying business records, issuing false financial statements, conspiracy to commit insurance fraud and conspiracy to falsify business records.
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27-03-2024, 14:29
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68670289
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A New York judge placed Donald Trump under a gag order ahead of his criminal hush money case that begins 15 April.
He is barred from making public statements about court staff, jurors, witnesses and lawyers in the district attorney's office - or their families.
The gag order does not apply to the district attorney.
The Trump campaign said the order, which is limited in some instances, violated his free speech rights.
In several instances, the order requires that the comments would have to be "made with the intent to materially interfere" with the case.
Justice Juan Merchan granted the limited gag order after Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg requested it.
Earlier today, Mr Trump attacked Justice Merchan's daughter on his Truth Social account, and called the judge a "certified Trump hater"...
...In his order, Justice Merchan wrote that he had considered Mr Trump's constitutional free speech rights, but concluded that the former president's "extrajudicial statements went far beyond defending himself against 'attacks' by 'public figures'".
Instead, Justice Merchan said he had found Mr Trump's "statements were threatening, inflammatory, denigrating" and led to fear and increased security requirements for those targeted.
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27-03-2024, 15:25
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
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If it prevents him saying anything that could prejudice his case then of course. It's not really a "gag order" then.
But anything else would probably violate his 1st amendment rights.
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27-03-2024, 16:17
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
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Originally Posted by Hugh
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The gag order covers
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Donald Trump gets hits with terrible news as the judge in his criminal hush money trial slaps him with a crushing gag order — blocking him from making his usual inflammatory statements about witnesses.
But it gets even better...
Judge Juan Merchan also ruled that Trump can't make or influence others to speak publicly about attorneys, court staff, or the families of prosecutors or lawyers tied to the case in such a way as to interfere with it. Not only is Trump muzzled — so are his MAGA minions.
Similarly, Trump is barred from attacking any potential or actual jurors involved. The criminal trial, which could sink Trump for good given the mountains of evidence and witnesses, begins on April 15.
Trump has been charged with a staggering 34 counts of falsifying business records tied to the illegal hush money he allegedly funneled through his then-fixer Michael Cohen to adult film star Stormy Daniels.
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27-03-2024, 17:39
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
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The gag order covers
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Meh, he's already broken it...
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27-03-2024, 17:55
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
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Meh, he's already broken it...
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Not sure if he has - the Truth Social post attacked the Judge and his daughter, and the jury (see what I did there ) is out on whether they are covered by the Gag Order…
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27-03-2024, 20:03
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
It would have to be a very big gag.
He's immune from anything and above the law. Everyone in the US courts that matter is too scared/biased/politicised. A sad state of affairs. Him and buddy Putin with a free hand doesn't bare thinking about. But it seems to be coming.
Even George Orwell wouldn't have thought this dark of our future.
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28-03-2024, 07:58
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
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Not sure if he has - the Truth Social post attacked the Judge and his daughter, and the jury (see what I did there ) is out on whether they are covered by the Gag Order…
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You're right Hugh. Neither the Judge, his family nor the D.A. are covered by the gag order. whether the Judge may now rectify it remains to be seen.
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29-03-2024, 14:04
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
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I think he is deliberately vague, with the intent of being misinterpreted by his supporters to incite their anger (stochastic terrorism) and to then lash out at the mainstream media for taking a different interpretation. He frequently changes subject mid-sentence, causing confusion about what he’s talking about - deliberately or not, not sure…
Who uses "bloodbath" in reference to the auto industry?
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“Bloodbath” has been used many times in the media talking about dire situations, bad market or political situations, exhibit A:
https://x.com/bennyjohnson/status/17...j84UokTCANDtnw
But as per usual, when Trump does it, he’s super bad inciting violence.
Not that the pathetic & corrupt Democrats have never incited violence Hugh, like Maxine Waters telling her supporters if you see Republicans in the street, “you got to fight like hell”.
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29-03-2024, 15:44
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
It was Trump who said "'We fight like hell. And if you don't fight like hell you're not going to have a country anymore.'" on January 6th…
What Maxine Walter’s said (in reference to the Walter Chauvin trial) was "Well, we gotta stay on the street. And we've got to get more active. We've got to get more confrontational. We've got to make sure that they know that we mean business".
Context is all - Walters was calling for justice for someone who had been murdered by a policeman, and Trump was calling for the Election results to be overturned.
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30-03-2024, 12:26
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
https://www.republicworld.com/world-...urfaces-watch/
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Donald Trump Posts Image of Joe Biden Tied-Up in Pick-Up Truck
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31-03-2024, 21:55
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
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31-03-2024, 23:15
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
Whatever he is smoking is still working.
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01-04-2024, 11:56
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Re: Trump’s Troubles
Sounds like someone left him alone with a cheap bottle of cooking wine.
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