Manchester Arena Terror Attack: 22 Dead : 50+ Injured
25-05-2017, 21:53
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Re: Manchester Arena Terror Attack: 22 Dead : 50+ Injured
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There's clearly a campaign being raged against trump by a wide range of organisations and clearly no bar can be set low enough for them not to limbo under with ease.
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It was Trump who apparently released the Israeli intelligence on Isis to Russia, not some shady conspirators.
We don't know the motivations of those who leaked the Manchester information to CBS, NBC etc. There do seem to be multiple people involved and whilst it's not great for the reputation of the US, I don't think people are blaming Trump for it.
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25-05-2017, 23:34
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Re: Manchester Arena Terror Attack: 22 Dead : 50+ Injured
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On the contrary:
......and he's not the only one who is either deliberatly not facing up to what is going on, or is simply thick as mince.
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Sadly, you can no longer rely, in general, on the mainstream UK churches to understand what is really going on. They have succumbed to the spirit of political correctness, and seem not to understand Ephesians 6:12.
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We don't know the motivations of those who leaked the Manchester information to CBS, NBC etc. .
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Yes we do. They will do anything to cause trouble for Trump. It aint rocker science! All the media outlets you mention are anti Trump and are pushing a liberal agenda. What better attack strategy than to cause a rift between America's two main allies; The UK and Israel. Especially as Trump and the UK are standing up for national sovereignty and border control, the opposite of 'liberal' thinking.
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25-05-2017, 23:51
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Re: Manchester Arena Terror Attack: 22 Dead : 50+ Injured
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Yes we do. They will do anything to cause trouble for Trump. It aint rocker science! All the media outlets you mention are anti Trump and are pushing a liberal agenda. What better attack strategy than to cause a rift between America's two main allies; The UK and Israel. Especially as Trump and the UK are standing up for national sovereignty and border control, the opposite of 'liberal' thinking.
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We simply don't know if that's the motivation of the leakers. There's a whole host of other potential reasons. Unhappy staff, for one, who may not be anti-Trump but have other grievances.
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26-05-2017, 01:42
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Re: Manchester Arena Terror Attack: 22 Dead : 50+ Injured
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We simply don't know if that's the motivation of the leakers. There's a whole host of other potential reasons. Unhappy staff, for one, who may not be anti-Trump but have other grievances.
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U.S Media commentators are saying Obama 'leftovers', who still have a job, that don't necessarily get changed when a new President is sworn in.
I would say they have a axe still to grind, but their low life actions in jeopardizing a Active Terrorist investigation of one of their allies, is unforgivable and more importantly, is a Felony. Lock them up I say and take a few New York Times/ABC/or other media **** that published our Intel, with them.
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26-05-2017, 01:49
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Re: Manchester Arena Terror Attack: 22 Dead : 50+ Injured
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U.S Media commentators are saying Obama 'leftovers', who still have a job, that don't necessarily get changed when a new President is sworn in.
I would say they have a axe still to grind, but their low life actions in jeopardizing a Active Terrorist investigation of one of their allies, is unforgivable and more importantly, is a Felony. Lock them up I say and take a few New York Times/ABC/or other media **** that published our Intel, with them.
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Again then, these same people that have been illegally leaking documents for the anti-Trump agenda for way too long. It's great to see that America has become so lopsided that if it isn't Trump, it isn't a problem.
They should've actually been arrested and charged months ago, I wouldn't hold your breath for anything to change now.
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26-05-2017, 07:58
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Re: Manchester Arena Terror Attack: 22 Dead : 50+ Injured
I imagine it's someone who wants to make some extra cash..
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26-05-2017, 08:52
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Re: Manchester Arena Terror Attack: 22 Dead : 50+ Injured
Generally the American and UK broadsheet press wouldn't pay a source or for a leak.
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26-05-2017, 10:35
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Re: Manchester Arena Terror Attack: 22 Dead : 50+ Injured
In recent years we've seen the rise of leaks (some very serious indeed) and I think we're heading down a very slippery slope in which people may act for what they believe are the right reasons without appreciating the unintended consequences of their actions. Whatever the reason for leaking information, it's so much easier for it to be disseminated nowadays and therefore for the genie to get out of the bottle. What might have started out as a means by which to embarrass a president, for example, could just set off who whole chain of very unfortunate events which costs us all dear.
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26-05-2017, 14:15
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Re: Manchester Arena Terror Attack: 22 Dead : 50+ Injured
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We simply don't know if that's the motivation of the leakers. .
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Again; not rocket science; they have liberal views, annoyed that Hillary lost and are anti Trump.
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26-05-2017, 14:41
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The motivation could be different and the leakers in each case may not be the same people. After all there is a clear difference between the motivation of leaking the Trump/Russia stuff and leaking the intelligence of an ally. The latter is going to reduce the likelihood and support for the former....
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26-05-2017, 15:12
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Re: Manchester Arena Terror Attack: 22 Dead : 50+ Injured
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Sadly, you can no longer rely, in general, on the mainstream UK churches to understand what is really going on. They have succumbed to the spirit of political correctness, and seem not to understand Ephesians 6:12.
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Staggering, since their brethren in many muslim parts of the world could set them straight (those that are still alive that is).
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26-05-2017, 16:03
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Re: Manchester Arena Terror Attack: 22 Dead : 50+ Injured
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The motivation could be different and the leakers in each case may not be the same people. After all there is a clear difference between the motivation of leaking the Trump/Russia stuff and leaking the intelligence of an ally. The latter is going to reduce the likelihood and support for the former....
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The motivation doesn't affect the unintended consequences and even well intentioned leaks can backfire badly. Just because someone's in the position to leak sensitive information doesn't mean they've thought it all through or can control how it's used and acted upon.
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Again; not rocket science; they have liberal views, annoyed that Hillary lost and are anti Trump.
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What on Earth brings you to that conclusion?
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26-05-2017, 21:59
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Re: Manchester Arena Terror Attack: 22 Dead : 50+ Injured
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The motivation could be different and the leakers in each case may not be the same people. After all there is a clear difference between the motivation of leaking the Trump/Russia stuff and leaking the intelligence of an ally. The latter is going to reduce the likelihood and support for the former....
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Exactly. It's human nature to find a simplistic binary answer and one that meets a reader's inherent bias and prejudices. Reality is far more complex.
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27-05-2017, 08:41
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Re: Manchester Arena Terror Attack: 22 Dead : 50+ Injured
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Exactly. It's human nature to find a simplistic binary answer and one that meets a reader's inherent bias and prejudices. Reality is far more complex.
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27-05-2017, 15:54
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Re: Manchester Arena Terror Attack: 22 Dead : 50+ Injured
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Exactly. It's human nature to find a simplistic binary answer and one that meets a reader's inherent bias and prejudices. Reality is far more complex.
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Or to ignore an answer staring them in the face, because of 'a reader's inherent bias and prejudices'.
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