30-04-2017, 10:36
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Re: June 8th General Election
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radio times readers well of course they support it it's a bbc mag
do you have a real survey .
like this maybe
http://home.bt.com/lifestyle/money/m...11364061774699
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30-04-2017, 10:44
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Re: June 8th General Election
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Strange that as you are quick to shout from the rooftops when a majority support your views and opinions but when it is the other way you seem to rather dismiss it.
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30-04-2017, 10:48
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Re: June 8th General Election
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Strange that as you are quick to shout from the rooftops when a majority support your views and opinions but when it is the other way you seem to rather dismiss it.
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that survey you posted was from a closed community so had no relevance on the real world views of others ,i only posted the first poll i found to assist the debate ,if you feel you can do better please do .
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30-04-2017, 11:00
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Re: June 8th General Election
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German company Hubert Burda Media owns the Radio Times, not the BBC.
I'm not sure that a poll of users of a money-saving website is a representative sample of UK voters, particularly when the sample size is not stated!
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30-04-2017, 11:07
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Re: June 8th General Election
It's a BBC mag, not a BBC mag, make you mind up Smurf!
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30-04-2017, 11:21
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Re: June 8th General Election
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It's a BBC mag, not a BBC mag, make you mind up Smurf!
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i have no idea what your saying here
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30-04-2017, 11:54
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Re: June 8th General Election
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It's not a profit making business, it's a public service broadcaster. It means it doesn't have 20 minutes of adverts every hour and makes programmes that others won't because they're not profitable.
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Agree.
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As for bias, all politicians try to bully the BBC. The main complaints this week have been complaints of a bias against Corbyn. A lot of their presenters have a Tory background bias e.g Kluennsberg /Nick Robinson. I'm not too worried about that as every is entitled to their own slant on things as long as it's broadly balanced out by others.
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The BBC is anti Brexit. Laura Kluennsberg is a very knowledgeable reporter, but her support for remain is obvious. I'm sure their news coverage is equally balanced. It's in the commenting on stories where the bias is easy to see. Also, Dateline London invites mainly pro remain guests, and without question anti Trump guests; the American guest always supports the Democrats. The 10:30pm paper review mainly has pro remain and anti Trump journalists as guests; it was a shock last night to see a Trump supporting journalist on.
The BBC's bias isn't overt; they're too clever for that; it's done more subtly done.
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30-04-2017, 12:23
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Re: June 8th General Election
A survey last year of over 1,023 people by Survey Analytics people found:
- 41% felt that licence fee was the best way to fund the BBC
- 29% feel that licence fee should be scrapped
- 28% felt it should be advertiser-funded in the same way that Channel 4 is
- 15% felt there should be a subscription fee
The full report can be accessed here.
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The BBC is anti Brexit.
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lol, you're 29 days too late with that comment!
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30-04-2017, 12:44
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Re: June 8th General Election
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lol, you're 29 days too late with that comment!
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I think that if you look back over my previous posts, I think you will find that I have said it, way further back than 29 days ago.
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30-04-2017, 14:59
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As she said, she cold have kept this quiet and just voted according to her conscience so a brave move.
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Boris Johnson's now-Liberal Democrat sister Rachel said he sold 'faulty goods' over broken Brexit promises
Boris Johnson’s sister has accused his brother and fellow Brexiteers of selling “faulty goods” over promises on Europe.
Rachel Johnson, who has joined the Liberal Democrats, said she believed leaving the EU is a “suicide mission” that will take Britain “over a cliff."
The columnist said she defected because the Lib Dems are the only party that have a “sensible plan in place” ahead of the snap general election.
Ms Johnson highlighted how, after assurances by US officials that Britain would be "front of the queue" for a trade deal, Britain is now "behind the EU".
She said the promise of £350 million in funding for the NHS, which emblazoned her brother's Brexit bus, is no more, migration will have to remain at current levels in order for the country to thrive, and growth is slowing.
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http://www.standard.co.uk/news/polit...-a3527316.html
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30-04-2017, 16:17
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Re: June 8th General Election
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Other people in the country have a similar view. What makes her opinion so noteworthy? Is it because she has a famous brother? What makes that 'qualification' so special?
Will we be highlighting the views of the siblings of pop stars, film stars and footballers next?
The BBC chose her to guest on Marr just for a bit of controversy.
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30-04-2017, 16:25
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Re: June 8th General Election
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The Radio Times hasn't been owned by the BBC since 2011.
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did they sell it for profit or just give up the rights ?
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30-04-2017, 16:27
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Re: June 8th General Election
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Other people in the country have a similar view. What makes her opinion so noteworthy? Is it because she has a famous brother? What makes that 'qualification' so special?
Will we be highlighting the views of the siblings of pop stars, film stars and footballers next?
The BBC chose her to guest on Marr just for a bit of controversy.
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It's newsworthy for at least two reasons:
- She's got two Conservative ministers as siblings : Boris Johnson and Jo Johnson (Minister of State for Universities and Science)
- She's a famous columnist and writer.
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did they sell it for profit or just give up the rights ?
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BBC sells Radio Times as part of £121m sell-off
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-14548951
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30-04-2017, 17:25
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Re: June 8th General Election
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- She's a famous columnist and writer.
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Famous?
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30-04-2017, 17:36
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Re: June 8th General Election
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Originally Posted by papa smurf
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It might even make me vote kipper again but sadly it's just a headline grabber they know they won't have to commit to
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It's not a profit making business, it's a public service broadcaster. It means it doesn't have 20 minutes of adverts every hour and makes programmes that others won't because they're not profitable. It would just become a Sky clone going down market. Another in the 100s of crap cable channels, many of whom are showing repeats of BBC shows.
As for bias, all politicians try to bully the BBC. The main complaints this week have been complaints of a bias against Corbyn. A lot of their presenters have a Tory background bias e.g Kluennsberg /Nick Robinson. I'm not too worried about that as every is entitled to their own slant on things as long as it's broadly balanced out by others.
The BBC has had a lot of cuts, e.g BBC3; however the £13 a month it costs compares very favourably to other providers esp. since most of it is new/original. We'll be sorry when it's gone, like the NHS better keeping politicians away from it.
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Oh yes, 13 quid or zero pounds, that does compare very favourably, it's straight out of the Gordon Brown school of fiscal/ financial calculations
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