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Re: Kelvin Mackenzie suspended by The Sun
Something can be offensive if it is affects you personally.
Being offended on behalf of someone else is a scourge on society.
Kelvin McKenzie is an odious individual but I am not offended by what he has written.
And as for Joey Barton speaking out against what was written.....seriously???
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15-04-2017, 22:30
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Re: Kelvin Mackenzie suspended by The Sun
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Originally Posted by Julian
Something can be offensive if it is affects you personally.
Being offended on behalf of someone else is a scourge on society.
Kelvin McKenzie is an odious individual but I am not offended by what he has written.
And as for Joey Barton speaking out against what was written.....seriously???
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Joey Barton comes from the Liverpool City area (Huyton) and Mackenzie was insulting Liverpudlians so according to you he has a reason to be offended.
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16-04-2017, 08:09
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Re: Kelvin Mackenzie suspended by The Sun
Mackenzie has always been quite nasty. This was a Sun editorial in 1989:
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16-04-2017, 08:29
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Re: Kelvin Mackenzie suspended by The Sun
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A bit dumb maybe, hardly racist, just more OTT reactions.
The internet seems to have turned people into super sensitives who get offended by anything.
I feel sorry for the generations to come, everyone will be afriad to have an opinion unless its sanctioned by the social media brigade.
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Racial undertones......perhaps. But that is not the issue in my opinion.
McKenzie obviously hates Liverpool, he hates it because he got it wrong over Hilsborough.
So he saw an opportunity to have a go at Liverpool again. Yes Kelvin all young wealthy people in the North West must be drug dealers........ etc etc.
The Sun's circulation in Merseyside was tiny anyway this is just a further nail in the rags demise.
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16-04-2017, 09:48
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Re: Kelvin Mackenzie suspended by The Sun
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Joey Barton comes from the Liverpool City area (Huyton) and Mackenzie was insulting Liverpudlians so according to you he has a reason to be offended.
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And of course he sits atop the moral high ground, is a pillar of society and has never offended anyone.
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Re: Kelvin Mackenzie suspended by The Sun
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And of course he sits atop the moral high ground, is a pillar of society and has never offended anyone.
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Yep a model citizen...
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16-04-2017, 10:49
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Re: Kelvin Mackenzie suspended by The Sun
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And of course he sits atop the moral high ground, is a pillar of society and has never offended anyone.
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Doesn't make his opinion any less valid. I also don't think he taking any moral "high ground". His home town has been insulted, again, by somebody even more reprehensible than himself so he is entitled to comment.
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16-04-2017, 11:14
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Re: Kelvin Mackenzie suspended by The Sun
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And of course he sits atop the moral high ground, is a pillar of society and has never offended anyone.
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I doubt he's ever claimed that! Do you really want to ban people from reacting to their home town being insulted unless they meet your strict moral criteria? That sounds like an approach more at home in ISIS than the UK.
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16-04-2017, 11:17
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Re: Kelvin Mackenzie suspended by The Sun
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McKenzie obviously hates Liverpool...
So he saw an opportunity to have a go at Liverpool again.
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So he hates Liverpool, so what ?
He's perfectly entitled to hate it if he wants.
(Personally, Ive never been to the place, so I have no view on it).
I do hate London though, so feel free to be offended [any Londoners]
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The Sun's circulation in Merseyside was tiny anyway this is just a further nail in the rags demise.
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So it seems kinda hard for pretty much any of them to be offended really, since virtually none will have even seen it.
If you dont like his views, dont read them, why the need these days to make a massive fuss about everything
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Re: Kelvin Mackenzie suspended by The Sun
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I doubt he's ever claimed that! Do you really want to ban people from reacting to their home town being insulted unless they meet your strict moral criteria? That sounds like an approach more at home in ISIS than the UK.
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I am merely highlighting the hypocrisy of someone equally, if not more, offensive than McKenzie crying about being offended......
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Re: Kelvin Mackenzie suspended by The Sun
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So he hates Liverpool, so what ?
He's perfectly entitled to hate it if he wants.
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He certainly is, but he has access to massive media platform called the Sun over which he is using to propagate that hatred. Which is an abuse of his position.
Would it be ok for say, Piers Morgan to use his slot on morning television to profess his hatred for Newcastle, fat geordies, and geordie slags?
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So it seems kinda hard for pretty much any of them to be offended really, since virtually none will have even seen it.
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Well they won't via the Sun, but every news media outlet is running the story so hard to escape it.
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If you dont like his views, dont read them, why the need these days to make a massive fuss about everything
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I'm not making a massive fuss, just commenting on discussion forum, as are you, so you're making as much fuss as me.
Also wouldn't usually have read it, but as I say it's on every news outlet, so when I see the headline " McKenzie in Barkley race slur" as a scouser and Everton fan, I'm going to read it. Is that alright with you like? Or do I need to have someone proof read everything for me so I can avoid what I might not like in the world according to Paul?
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Re: Kelvin Mackenzie suspended by The Sun
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I'm not making a massive fuss, just commenting on discussion forum, as are you, so you're making as much fuss as me.
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I never said you were
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Is that alright with you like? Or do I need to have someone proof read everything for me so I can avoid what I might not like in the world according to Paul?
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Being an ass wont help any point you had.
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Re: Kelvin Mackenzie suspended by The Sun
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What it's done is make it easy for them to express all that outrage (faux or otherwise), disgust or whatever without even getting out of their armchairs. I dare say it makes some of them feel better too whilst others are so sad they just get off on stirring up trouble wherever and however they can.
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You mean like all that outrage about migrants, Muslims, the EU, Corbyn, Labour, Remainers, the list goes on, that you post from your armchair?
I'd change that slogan on your profile if I was you ...
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Re: Kelvin Mackenzie suspended by The Sun
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What it's done is make it easy for them to express all that outrage (faux or otherwise), disgust or whatever without even getting out of their armchairs. I dare say it makes some of them feel better too whilst others are so sad they just get off on stirring up trouble wherever and however they can.
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how very true and when exposed they become very bitter about it
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Re: Kelvin Mackenzie suspended by The Sun
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how very true and when exposed they become very bitter about it
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Do Smurfs even have armchairs?
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