08-03-2017, 22:53
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Budget
Not a bad Budget I thought. Not much mention of the crisis in the NHS, and how they are going to solve it, but no surprise there. However, it's about time the self employed their fair share, well done Phil. Hilarious to see the self employed Tory columnists going apoplectic Brexit is going to cost big time, and we are all going to have to pay for 'taking back our country', from God knows who. Welcome to the real world. Lots more tax rises to come.
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08-03-2017, 23:03
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Re: Budget
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Originally Posted by Mr K
Not a bad Budget I thought. Not much mention of the crisis in the NHS, and how they are going to solve it, but no surprise there. However, it's about time the self employed their fair share, well done Phil. Hilarious to see the self employed Tory columnists going apoplectic Brexit is going to cost big time, and we are all going to have to pay for 'taking back our country', from God knows who. Welcome to the real world. Lots more tax rises to come.
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What a pathetic, doom and gloom opinionated view you have. You are of course wrong. Brexit was not even themed in today's budget, was not even mentioned once. So you're wrong. (as always).
And no we won't turn this in to another brexit thread for you to slate with your wrongful, one sided, badly pessimistic views on the subject.
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08-03-2017, 23:09
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Re: Budget
Yes that was strange Brexit wasn't mentioned seeing as they are supposed to be triggering Article 50 this month . Second thoughts
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08-03-2017, 23:10
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Re: Budget
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Yes that was strange Brexit wasn't mentioned seeing as they are supposed to be triggering Article 50 this month . Second thoughts
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Dream on.
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08-03-2017, 23:19
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Re: Budget
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Originally Posted by Mr K
Not a bad Budget I thought. Not much mention of the crisis in the NHS, and how they are going to solve it, but no surprise there. However, it's about time the self employed their fair share, well done Phil. Hilarious to see the self employed Tory columnists going apoplectic Brexit is going to cost big time, and we are all going to have to pay for 'taking back our country', from God knows who. Welcome to the real world. Lots more tax rises to come.
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The self employed get no sick pay,no maternity leave/allowance and no holiday pay..
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08-03-2017, 23:27
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Re: Budget
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The self employed get no sick pay,no maternity leave/allowance and no holiday pay..
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However they do get 'cash in hand'.
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08-03-2017, 23:42
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Re: Budget
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Originally Posted by Maggy J
The self employed get no sick pay,no maternity leave/allowance and no holiday pay..
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That is meant to factored into the rates they charge in the first place.
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09-03-2017, 00:23
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Re: Budget
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However they do get 'cash in hand'.
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That may be the case for some tradespeople but many people invoice large companies and don't get cash in hand.
The Ukip-sympathetic Telegraph has gone to town on the Conservatives' promises not to raise NI. The Conservatives should have printed them on the side of a bus instead as that doesn't count as a real promise!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...aise-national/
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09-03-2017, 00:48
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Re: Budget
It's not increasing NI, it's equalizing the rates in return for equalizing the benefits. Seems fair.
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Mr Hammond said the different National Insurance rates had traditionally reflected a disparity in pension and benefit entitlement between self-employed people and those in employment.
But he said these had now been "very substantially reduced", and that the government would also consult on addressing disparities in relation to parental benefits.
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09-03-2017, 07:13
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Re: Budget
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Originally Posted by Mr K
However they do get 'cash in hand'.
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hence why we all ask "how much for cash".
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09-03-2017, 07:50
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Re: Budget
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Originally Posted by Mr K
Yes that was strange Brexit wasn't mentioned seeing as they are supposed to be triggering Article 50 this month . Second thoughts
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Very strange considering there was talk the other day of the chancellor squirreling 60 billion away to insulate us, insulate us, what's he gonna do, burn it.
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Oh yes the bus, the 30 million a day, 3 billion a week, 9 trillion an hour or what ever figure it was certain brextremists plucked out of their backsides, Phil should've read that rather than the gloomy pamphlet that dropped through all our doors, if he had we might not need insulating.
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09-03-2017, 08:25
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Re: Budget
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Originally Posted by Maggy J
The self employed get no sick pay,no maternity leave/allowance and no holiday pay..
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Mere details of course, they don't tend to feature much in the OP's jaundiced stereotyping. For him the self employed are clearly all a bunch of tax fiddling cheats who milk the system.
Last edited by Osem; 09-03-2017 at 08:29.
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09-03-2017, 08:29
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Re: Budget
Holiday pay isn't paid by the government anyway is it?
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09-03-2017, 08:43
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Re: Budget
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Originally Posted by Mr K
However, it's about time the self employed their fair share
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and we are all going to have to pay for 'taking back our country', from God knows who.
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If you don't know from whom, by now, then you are as thick as two short planks
Or are you simply trolling?
---------- Post added at 08:43 ---------- Previous post was at 08:41 ----------
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Originally Posted by Mr K
However they can get 'cash in hand'.
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Fixed that for you to eliminate the massive assumption you made in your statement.
Not everyone who is self employed is fiddling (or can fiddle) things.
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09-03-2017, 09:53
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Re: Budget
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Fixed that for you to eliminate the massive assumption you made in your statement.
Not everyone who is self employed is fiddling (or can fiddle) things.
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Oh dear Mick won't be pleased with you ! http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...7&postcount=12 (however, fwiw don't object to your 'edit', so don't be too hard on him Mick )
tbf 'cash in hand' was a bit 'tongue in cheek', however there are many tax advantages to being self employed, some legal, some not. Those taxed at source have no such room for manoeuvre. Employed/Self employed - pro's and cons with each. However self employed paying less NI for the same services is clearly unfair, and yesterday it was partly put right.
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