31-10-2016, 12:36
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Re: US Election 2016
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Originally Posted by adzii_nufc
The polls didn't move that much when it was alleged Combetta and Clinton tampered with E-mails did they? Even though this is 'official' and the timing isn't great I don't see it making a massive dent.
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No but that story didn't get anywhere. They did move +2 towards Trump when the FBI had the press conference about not recommending charges but calling her very careless.
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31-10-2016, 12:41
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Re: US Election 2016
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‘The atmosphere at the FBI has been toxic ever since Jim announced last July that he wouldn’t recommend an indictment against Hillary,’ said the source, a close friend who has known Comey for nearly two decades, shares family outings with him, and accompanies him to Catholic mass every week.
‘Some people, including department heads, stopped talking to Jim, and even ignored his greetings when they passed him in the hall,’ said the source. ‘They felt that he betrayed them and brought disgrace on the bureau by letting Hillary off with a slap on the wrist.’
According to the source, Comey fretted over the problem for months and discussed it at great length with his wife, Patrice.
He told his wife that he was depressed by the stack of resignation letters piling up on his desk from disaffected agents. The letters reminded him every day that morale in the FBI had hit rock bottom.
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Ed Klein though - Guilty as sin author... notorious Clinton hunter. It's the same idea I suggested earlier, Comey is under pressure and he's stupidly dove in head first and now he looks the prat.
Even if by miracle he turns something relevant up, his job is surely done.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...31488794923008
Check the date.
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31-10-2016, 12:49
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Re: US Election 2016
Imagine if something in the e-mails had come up after the election and he didn't told anyone? It's a no-win situation really. If Clinton wins then she'll be glad he did it because it wouldn't help if it emerged they were secretly investigating her a week before the election.
His problem was the letter made it the case seem a lot more serious than it currently is. He should have been clear that they currently had no idea if anything of relevance would be found.
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31-10-2016, 12:54
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Re: US Election 2016
To be fair to him, it was the slant the Republican Chairs gave it which hit the headlines, not his original letter.
But he should have known it was going to happen.
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31-10-2016, 12:54
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Re: US Election 2016
If he hadn't made a botch of the first one it wouldn't have been this late. Everything going on is his own fault. If he turns something up, he's still being scrutinized for those failings the first time round. If he doesn't turn anything up then it's even worse and the FBI as a whole will suffer from it.
There's no sane scenario where this man is still employed as FBI director after this. It's America though...
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31-10-2016, 13:01
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Re: US Election 2016
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The Huma Abedin/Anthony Wiener issue has been known about for a while. It's been a stick to beat Clinton with before.
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If he hadn't made a botch of the first one it wouldn't have been this late. Everything going on is his own fault. If he turns something up, he's still being scrutinized for those failings the first time round. If he doesn't turn anything up then it's even worse and the FBI as a whole will suffer from it.
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It would have been. This is new evidence (if there is any).
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There's no sane scenario where this man is still employed as FBI director after this. It's America though...
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We risk judging him on decisions where we don't have all the information he did or know the legal implications as well.
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31-10-2016, 13:09
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Re: US Election 2016
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The Huma Abedin/Anthony Wiener issue has been known about for a while. It's been a stick to beat Clinton with before.
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It would have been. This is new evidence (if there is any).
We risk judging him on decisions where we don't have all the information he did or know the legal implications as well.
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31-10-2016, 14:23
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Re: US Election 2016
All this blame game on Comey is all a bit delusional, he did the right thing re-opening the FBI case, he had no choice. It is being said, there was an FBI Mutiny going on behind closed doors, all because the first time attempt to get her indicted failed.
Wikileaks has since released revelation after revelation, very much to Clinton's annoyance, but the law states, law enforcement's can't use evidence obtained illegally, however, they can use Weiner's laptop data now that a Warrant has been issued. They now have to sift through 650,000 found emails on Weiner's Laptop.
They knew she was an out and out liar regarding her emails but it appears before the last investigation concluded, we can all guess that she must have had help to cover her tracks, lots of emails vanishing from her private server, as Trump said 'Acid washed' and people, who worked closely with her, taking the 5th Amendment etc etc, when being interrogated by the FBI.
Now history is a very hard thing to erase. Let's rewind only 8 years ago..... when the current President Obama said the following about HC back in 2008, this was one of his official campaign ads:-
"Hillary Clinton, she'll say anything to get elected." AND "Hillary Clinton, she'll say anything and change nothing." Barack Obama, 2008.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGqD8-a-REQ
This was only 8 years ago, yet only 3 days ago he campaigned for her in Florida, also his wife, Michelle, did not say nice things about her 8 years ago either, and now she is the best thing since sliced bread, yeah right, bloody hypocrites, the lot of them. The stench of Democrats, sleazy at their best and I am convinced more and more that with her as President, WWIII is a distinct probability, maybe this infowars campaign ad released recently, is not so far fetched as it looks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoI7KMJuQBw
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31-10-2016, 14:35
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Re: US Election 2016
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Now history is a very hard thing to erase. Let's rewind only 8 years ago..... when the current President Obama said the following about HC back in 2008, this was one of his official campaign ads:-
"Hillary Clinton, she'll say anything to get elected." AND "Hillary Clinton, she'll say anything and change nothing." Barack Obama, 2008.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGqD8-a-REQ
This was only 8 years ago, yet only 3 days ago he campaigned for her in Florida, also his wife, Michelle, did not say nice things about her 8 years ago either, and now she is the best thing since sliced bread, yeah right, bloody hypocrites, the lot of them. The stench of Democrats, sleazy at their best and I am convinced more and more that with her as President, WWIII is a distinct probability, maybe this infowars campaign ad released recently, is not so far fetched as it looks.
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I always thought Obama would turn out to be a US version of Blair.
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31-10-2016, 14:44
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Re: US Election 2016
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Originally Posted by Mick
Wikileaks has since released revelation after revelation, very much to Clinton's annoyance, but the law states, law enforcement's can't use evidence obtained illegally, however, they can use Weiner's laptop data now that a Warrant has been issued. They now have to sift through 650,000 found emails on Weiner's Laptop.
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The Wikileaks are unrelated. They're e-mails from her campaign manager whereas this is about a insecure private server she used whilst at the State Department.
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This was only 8 years ago, yet only 3 days ago he campaigned for her in Florida, also his wife, Michelle, did not say nice things about her 8 years ago either, and now she is the best thing since sliced bread, yeah right, bloody hypocrites, the lot of them.
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I always thought Obama would turn out to be a US version of Blair.
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I think most people just accept that it's part of the political game. Obama appointed her Secretary of State in his first term so he clearly had some confidence in her.
Just as an example of that here is Trump praising Clinton back in 2008: http://edition.cnn.com/videos/politi...e-jnd-orig.cnn He's changed his tune as well.
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31-10-2016, 15:12
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Re: US Election 2016
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I think most people just accept that it's part of the political game. Obama appointed her Secretary of State in his first term so he clearly had some confidence in her.
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But he will the first one to throw her under the bus, if his own reputation is at risk, oh wait...
Already seen it. But your point is moot, Trumps opinion changes from Positive to Negative, where as Obama's changes from Negative to Positive. It's not linear, where Trump's is.
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31-10-2016, 15:13
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Re: US Election 2016
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Originally Posted by Mick
All this blame game on Comey is all a bit delusional, he did the right thing re-opening the FBI case, he had no choice. It is being said, there was an FBI Mutiny going on behind closed doors, all because the first time attempt to get her indicted failed.
Wikileaks has since released revelation after revelation, very much to Clinton's annoyance, but the law states, law enforcement's can't use evidence obtained illegally, however, they can use Weiner's laptop data now that a Warrant has been issued. They now have to sift through 650,000 found emails on Weiner's Laptop.
They knew she was an out and out liar regarding her emails but it appears before the last investigation concluded, we can all guess that she must have had help to cover her tracks, lots of emails vanishing from her private server, as Trump said 'Acid washed' and people, who worked closely with her, taking the 5th Amendment etc etc, when being interrogated by the FBI.
Now history is a very hard thing to erase. Let's rewind only 8 years ago..... when the current President Obama said the following about HC back in 2008, this was one of his official campaign ads:-
"Hillary Clinton, she'll say anything to get elected." AND "Hillary Clinton, she'll say anything and change nothing." Barack Obama, 2008.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGqD8-a-REQ
This was only 8 years ago, yet only 3 days ago he campaigned for her in Florida, also his wife, Michelle, did not say nice things about her 8 years ago either, and now she is the best thing since sliced bread, yeah right, bloody hypocrites, the lot of them. The stench of Democrats, sleazy at their best and I am convinced more and more that with her as President, WWIII is a distinct probability, maybe this infowars campaign ad released recently, is not so far fetched as it looks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoI7KMJuQBw
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He wouldn't be under any pressure had he not dished out immunity deals then have one of them backfire and leave him looking like an idiot. Something that then made the rest of the FBI look like total fools. You know when reddit find more evidence than your organization does, after you've given the key witnesses immunity for no viable reason. He's still got to take some of the stick for this.
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31-10-2016, 15:18
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Re: US Election 2016
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Already seen it. But your point is moot, Trumps opinion changes from Positive to Negative, where as Obama's changes from Negative to Positive. It's not linear, where Trump's is.
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Don't really see why changing your opinion from negative to positive is wildly different from going the other way.
People behave differently when they're in the midst of a political campaign compared to when they're back on the same side. It happens all the time in political campaigns. Look at Ted Cruz's 100% volte-face on Trump.
Anyhoo. Nevada voting numbers looking decent for Clinton: http://www.ktnv.com/news/ralston/the...ly-voting-blog
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He wouldn't be under any pressure had he not dished out immunity deals then have one of them backfire and leave him looking like an idiot. Something that then made the rest of the FBI look like total fools. You know when reddit find more evidence than your organization does, after you've given the key witnesses immunity for no viable reason. He's still got to take some of the stick for this.
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Reddit's investigatory skills don't have a good track record.
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31-10-2016, 16:11
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Re: US Election 2016
In fairness it was all concluded on Combetta's own stupidity. He was the one dumb enough to dump static IP's and his own car in posts that traced all the way back to him. How was a guy like that ever tasked with scrubbing Emails?
I know people should be safe online etc and it takes an arse to dig through your stuff to expose you and be a troll but come on. Unless there's two Paul Combetta's that own the same Pontiac, worked for Platte River and assisted E.T (Whilst kindly dumping their network logs and evidently static IP) and both live and work in Denver then it was him.
That's just that though.
These folks seem to be happy to work on the basis it was Combetta: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amMsn3dfVU4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQcfjR4vnTQ
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31-10-2016, 19:07
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Re: US Election 2016
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Trump said "we hit the motherlode” with the new emails discovered by the FBI on Anthony Weiner’s laptop.
He added the US would face "the real possibility of a constitutional crisis" if Hillary Clinton is elected president.
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Just a heads up, Trump knows whats in the new emails
Think, then speak. He does himself no favours sometimes. He'd have been perfect for claiming there were WMD's in Iraq then
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