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08-08-2016, 03:27
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Re: Olympics - Brazil 2016
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The leg break wasn't nice and the beeb won't show it. It's on YouTube of course if you choose to look; if you're undecided, it is a nasty floppy-leg type injury.
The women's cycling is currently on with Lizzie Armitstead (who missed 3 dope tests for various reasons); what do people think about her participation?
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I still think what I said earlier. The testing bodies caught up with Designer PEDs and those that have spent years doping up are showing vast cracks. Sure people get caught all the time but honestly there's been some pretty high tech stuff going on to avoid detection. Again, Armstrong was the tip of a huge iceberg.
In this case it screams of someone that fears the masking agents for PEDs are being caught out, which they are. So missed tests would indicate someone coming off a cycle and not being able to mask it like they have previously.
Until the next high tech advancement that allows the next generation of cheaters to avoid detection.
A bigger issue is the fact these athletes hardly just go around fancying a doping cycle, other people actively encourage it. Trainers and so forth and in bigger cases as we've seen with Russia and state sponsored abuse.
In times like this it'd be daft to assume any country is full of clean competitors.
To answer the question, why should we mind her competing? Be reasonable and play the odds, if she was doping then its odds on she wasn't the only one in that race juiced up.
We don't know what records and achievements are real anymore, personally I had no idea PEDs had reached a point of being undetectable, thus coining the phrase Designer PEDs, so anyone in the past 20 years could've cheated and we'd be none the wiser.
Their supporters and their sport are the true casualties though. Oh and those that actually compete legitimately.
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08-08-2016, 08:47
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We don't know what records and achievements are real anymore.
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Agree with everything you have said including and especially the sentence above. Who knows what the real unassisted achievement of human effort is these days; when a record goes, my first thought is to wonder if the athlete is clean so I just take the Games with a pinch of salt.
People make a lot of money from cheating and therein too lies the problem. People compete for the money not for the pride of winning for their country (or at least that seems secondary). Then they leave for the tax haven of Monaco or stash their cash in the Cayman Islands.
Perhaps instead of the usual honours for cronies in Government service, people could be given a gold, silver or bronze medal instead; a bit of mix 'n' match will make no more nonsense of the awards than already exists
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08-08-2016, 13:06
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Enjoyed the team archery tournaments (Men and women). Korea won both but is their national sport. I like to see field (animal face) in there, would be good to watch.
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09-08-2016, 22:56
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The Olympic pool has literally turned green.
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10-08-2016, 00:45
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The Olympic pool has literally turned green.
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The situation is getting worse:
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10-08-2016, 06:31
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The Olympic pool has literally turned green.
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Yes l have never seen that before at a major tournament.
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10-08-2016, 18:39
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10-08-2016, 18:44
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Indeed.
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10-08-2016, 20:20
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From a small seed a flower may bloom.
But on a more general note, where are the crowds? Some arenas look almost empty. I know some tickets are expensive but there are also supposed to be cheaper ones available. The cycling for example is free to watch out on the road but I've seen bigger crowds at local fun runs.
Perhaps people are fed up with the cheats? Perhaps people are boycotting the Games which they may feel to be something their country can't afford or that money could be better spent elsewhere.
Whatever, Rio looked quite bleak today with pouring rain and high winds. Yes, it's winter but that wouldn't stop hardy Brits getting out to support the Games.
I dunno; the gloss seems to be missing or maybe the real Games have yet to kick off? The highlight so far has been Usain Bolt doing the samba with a bevy of Brazillian, erm, dancers.
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10-08-2016, 21:05
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From a small seed a flower may bloom.
But on a more general note, where are the crowds? Some arenas look almost empty. I know some tickets are expensive but there are also supposed to be cheaper ones available. The cycling for example is free to watch out on the road but I've seen bigger crowds at local fun runs.
Perhaps people are fed up with the cheats? Perhaps people are boycotting the Games which they may feel to be something their country can't afford or that money could be better spent elsewhere.
Whatever, Rio looked quite bleak today with pouring rain and high winds. Yes, it's winter but that wouldn't stop hardy Brits getting out to support the Games.
I dunno; the gloss seems to be missing or maybe the real Games have yet to kick off? The highlight so far has been Usain Bolt doing the samba with a bevy of Brazillian, erm, dancers.
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Besides Foreigners, the answer probably lies within that highlighted bit.
I'm betting the Olympics are not affordable to the majority.
See: https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-olympic-games
http://www.theatlantic.com/internati...brazil/493697/
Doubt they're happy they're knocking down 'Houses' to accommodate something those people could never afford in the end. Pretty sad outcome either way. In fact it's a disgusting outcome and completely missed the point of why she was living in a 'shed'. Again though with the highlighted bit, there will always be an argument that money could have been spent easing some of the harshest slums in the world that are inside Brazil. They had the audacity to promote 'Green' with the opening ceremony too. Try tackling the corruptness and poverty in your own backyard first. Hosting A World Cup that set them back funds too. Just taking a crap over the lower class. Which is different by our standards. It's not impossible for a lower class person in the UK to be able to buy a ticket for something, infact JSA claimants tend to see more Football than me! It's a reverse though for Brazil.
I think London smashed it, that's why I feel it's a bit low key at the minute. I've seen no general excitement for Brazil as hosts and the fact they're forever messing something up, being delayed or causing national outrage somewhere never helped it. Half of the venues still had scaffolding on it a week beforehand.
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10-08-2016, 21:16
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Two golds for Great Britain this evening.
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I think London smashed it, that's why I feel it's a bit low key at the minute.
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Yep, London did pretty well following Beijing.
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Two golds for Great Britain this evening.
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And 4 bronze Den (cycling, shooting, judo and gymnastics). They all count
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11-08-2016, 22:58
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Team GB win Team sprint again.
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I wont be one of them.
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Don't think I'll be watching much more, I watched a bit of the women's beech volleyball the other day and there was a nasty wrist injury within minutes, the good news is I should be okay for work on Monday though.
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The second article raises some good points about not challenging the first missed test. She should've been banned imo, her sport in particular needs to be above reproach if it's going to recover from previous scandals. Bet Rio ferdinand isn't best pleased either, he missed 8 months of football and was it a world cup for missing one test.
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