TiVo General TiVo Discussion Part 3 - Page 47

passingbat · 24-05-2012, 12:27

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Originally Posted by BenMcr

I would expect that it's identifiying the right solution to offer it as a product i.e. the method by which you connect two TiVos together

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Originally Posted by carlwaring

Plus rights issues I suspect.

Both of these should have been sorted by now. VM have known of their requirments from the time that they decided to do a deal with Tivo. Tivo has been with customers for almost a year and a half, and there was the lengthy VM/Tivo development time before this.

alwaysabear · 24-05-2012, 12:52

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Originally Posted by carlwaring

Plus rights issues I suspect.

I would agree. IMO broadcasters in this country seem loath to allow the transfer of HD content between devices or at least only in a limited way.

vincerooney · 24-05-2012, 14:00

Hello. I've got two questions if anyone can answer them?

1) how do I get the tv stations picture on the info screen? I've seen people with the e4 icon on the info screen etc

2) I've come home and turned my tv and TiVo on. It's allowing me to rewind back before I even turned the box and tv on! Magical. How does it that? Is it always recording or recorded on virgin server? It's incredible!

3) I heard you can stream youtube videos from an iphone to your tivo box? So search youtube on phone and then get it up via the tivo box on screen? Surely not!
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4) Can you transfer recordings easily from a tivo? So you can watch on the go? Or is it like the v+ box with dvd recordable player atttached? (not that i can even think how else you could do it..)

5) any good more in depth guides for TiVo than just the virgin manual?

Thanks in advance all
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carlwaring · 24-05-2012, 14:10

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Originally Posted by vincerooney

1) how do I get the tv stations picture on the info screen? I've seen people with the e4 icon on the info screen etc.

Try a re-boot. I've never not had them there, so not sure really

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2) I've come home and turned my tv and TiVo on. It's allowing me to rewind back before I even turned the box and tv on! Magical. How does it that? Is it always recording or recorded on virgin server? It's incredible!

All "standby" does is switch off the audio and video. All three buffers are still... erm... buffering what channels they're on.

No. 3. No idea.

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4) Can you transfer recordings easily from a tivo?

Not at this time. Eventually, though

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5) any good more in depth guides for TiVo than just the virgin manual?

No. Just us

Lew · 24-05-2012, 15:24

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Originally Posted by passingbat

Both of these should have been sorted by now. VM have known of their requirments from the time that they decided to do a deal with Tivo. Tivo has been with customers for almost a year and a half, and there was the lengthy VM/Tivo development time before this.

Do tell us more. You obviously have a great in-depth knowledge of TV rights negotiations so I'm sure you can enlighten us on how it should have been "sorted by now".

Itshim · 24-05-2012, 15:30

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Originally Posted by Lew

Do tell us more. You obviously have a great in-depth knowledge of TV rights negotiations so I'm sure you can enlighten us on how it should have been "sorted by now".

You really think 18 months + is a reasonable time to sort it out

passingbat · 24-05-2012, 15:53

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Originally Posted by Lew

Do tell us more. You obviously have a great in-depth knowledge of TV rights negotiations so I'm sure you can enlighten us on how it should have been "sorted by now".

Tivo has been available to customers for around 17 months, and I'm guessing that the development, before release to customers was at least 12 months. So that's around 2.5 years in total.

I have no 'great in-depth knowledge of TV rights negotiations' but common sense suggests that something is wrong if both rights and connectivity can't be sorted out in that time scale.

Also, bear in mind that connectivity is there already; by hooking both boxes up to a router.

BenMcr · 24-05-2012, 15:58

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Originally Posted by passingbat

Tivo has been available to customers for around 17 months, and I'm guessing that the development, before release to customers was at least 12 months. So that's around 2.5 years in total.

I have no 'great in-depth knowledge of TV rights negotiations' but common sense suggests that something is wrong if both rights and connectivity can't be sorted out in that time scale.

Also, bear in mind that connectivity is there already; by hooking both boxes up to a router.

However multiroom streaming was only introduced by TiVo last year and the US boxes actually only got in January of this year

Itshim · 24-05-2012, 16:15

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Originally Posted by BenMcr

However multiroom streaming was only introduced by TiVo last year and the US boxes actually only got in January of this year

Ok so the tec problems are solved. Agree , that leaves "rights" as the only issue. So if it was thought of on 31st Dec 2011 ( Last year

) It is still nearly 5 months down the line

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Having said all this I really do not care if it comes or not. It just shows how slow Virgin are at getting things set up

DaMac · 24-05-2012, 16:40

Me to i aint switching to TiVo till i can stream to the upstairs V HD box, end of.

toady · 24-05-2012, 16:43

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Originally Posted by DaMac

Me to i aint switching to TiVo till i can stream to the upstairs V HD box, end of.

Sounds like you won't be getting a TIVO for a very long while then

BenMcr · 24-05-2012, 16:43

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Originally Posted by DaMac

Me to i aint switching to TiVo till i can stream to the upstairs V HD box, end of.

That'll be a while then. Nothing has been confirmed to say the V HD box will be getting the TiVo interface and it won't do streaming without it

pengedragon · 24-05-2012, 16:48

possibly missed at the bottom of the last page

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Originally Posted by pengedragon

couple of quick app questions if anyone can help

spotify - is it possible to shuffle a playlist on tivo ?

youtube - is it possible to see all my subscriptions on tivo ? when i log in it just seems to display whatever happened to have the last upload

cheers for any answers

passingbat · 24-05-2012, 17:01

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Originally Posted by BenMcr

However multiroom streaming was only introduced by TiVo last year and the US boxes actually only got in January of this year

I may be wrong, but prior to streaming, didn't they still have the ability to watch shows on one box on the other (by copying?) I imagine the process is not that different? I know copying is not really an option in the UK.

The thing is, we've had the boxes connected since last Novembe; I can delete shows from the beedroom box using the lounge box and visa versa. They knew they planned to have multiroom streaming from the get go, so rights issues really ought to be sorted. People buy Network connected TVs, Games consoles etc and to get the extra connected content, they have to connect it to the network, and they follow instructions on how to do it. Why should this extra Tivo functionality be any different?

And we know multi room streaming works on tivo, because the US ones have got it.

muppetman11 · 24-05-2012, 17:12

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Originally Posted by passingbat

People buy Network connected TVs, Games consoles etc and to get the extra connected content, they have to connect it to the network, and they follow instructions on how to do it. Why should this extra Tivo functionality be any different?

Because VM wants its customers to have a fault free perfect experience when using multiroom streaming , I've had a moan myself about how long multiroom streaming has took to arrive in the UK pay TV market , however thinking rationally about it you can see the issues. Many people don't want wiring going all over their homes which is probably the preferred method , wifi can be hit and miss which leaves Homeplug networking , it really is a minefield and also worth remembering no other pay TV provider currently has this feature available to date.