Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
11-11-2008, 13:39
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Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
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Originally Posted by SB_07
So you're basically saying anyone who gets caught with a dodgy VM box would go on and rip sky off aswell....yeah ok.
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It does not take to much of a leap to assume that someone willing to steal from one service would be willing to steal from another. Especially if their only going to be cut off if caught.
There's no real deterrent there when the only risk is being cut off.
Obvouisly this wouldnt be the case with all offenders but to have a blacklist accross the board would be more of a deterrent I think and be a more reasonable punishment for the crime in the first place.
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11-11-2008, 15:11
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Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
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It does not take to much of a leap to assume that someone willing to steal from one service would be willing to steal from another. Especially if their only going to be cut off if caught.
There's no real deterrent there when the only risk is being cut off.
Obvouisly this wouldnt be the case with all offenders but to have a blacklist accross the board would be more of a deterrent I think and be a more reasonable punishment for the crime in the first place.
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Same thing happens with airlines - you get caught causing a disturbance on a flight, and the airline you are flying with will refuse to carry you, and inform all other airlines on the route you have been denied passage and the reasons why.
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11-11-2008, 17:27
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Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
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Originally Posted by Maggy J
I'm still not clear about this..Just what evidence does someone phoning VM on this new telephone number to report a dodgy illegal user have to provide for VM to be able to pursue the matter and gain a prosecution?
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So nobody has an answer?
I'm wondering what constitutes proof when one considers that in the past the public have reported people doing this and VM have appeared to have done nothing and on some occasions have said there was not enough evidence.Surely they have to go on more than one persons 'hearsay' evidence?
Oh and to the person who seemed to think that I don't support the idea of VM actually getting firm about this what I actually want is that such offenders are to be arrested,placed in the stocks and pelted with rotten food...or even better, with their dodgy chipped boxes.
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11-11-2008, 21:19
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Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
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So nobody has an answer?
I'm wondering what constitutes proof when one considers that in the past the public have reported people doing this and VM have appeared to have done nothing and on some occasions have said there was not enough evidence.Surely they have to go on more than one persons 'hearsay' evidence?
Oh and to the person who seemed to think that I don't support the idea of VM actually getting firm about this what I actually want is that such offenders are to be arrested,placed in the stocks and pelted with rotten food...or even better, with their dodgy chipped boxes.
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the policy as far as i know is to ring the number and let the fraud dept deal with it
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11-11-2008, 22:29
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Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
My old grandmother, bless her, had a perfect cure for people who commited ANY crime - she would have people put to death for as much as dropping litter! Using illegal cables boxes would probably have brought back being hung drawn and quartered.
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12-11-2008, 09:11
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Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
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So nobody has an answer?
I'm wondering what constitutes proof when one considers that in the past the public have reported people doing this and VM have appeared to have done nothing and on some occasions have said there was not enough evidence.Surely they have to go on more than one persons 'hearsay' evidence?
Oh and to the person who seemed to think that I don't support the idea of VM actually getting firm about this what I actually want is that such offenders are to be arrested,placed in the stocks and pelted with rotten food...or even better, with their dodgy chipped boxes.
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I would have thought that if the name and address of the perp isn't on their billing list then they would be interested in having a closer look.
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12-11-2008, 09:51
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Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
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Originally Posted by DerekRothwell
My old grandmother, bless her, had a perfect cure for people who commited ANY crime - she would have people put to death for as much as dropping litter! Using illegal cables boxes would probably have brought back being hung drawn and quartered.
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The old values are still the best!
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12-11-2008, 10:39
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Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
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I would have thought that if the name and address of the perp isn't on their billing list then they would be interested in having a closer look.
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quite a few would probably pay for the least amount of services but use a chipped box to get the whole package
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12-11-2008, 11:26
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Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
i have been given three addresses from the fraud department to check out following information received. All three are suspected of using illegal set top's and all are telephone only customers.So they'd better watch out cos i'm coming to get them
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12-11-2008, 12:02
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Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
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My old grandmother, bless her, had a perfect cure for people who commited ANY crime - she would have people put to death for as much as dropping litter! Using illegal cables boxes would probably have brought back being hung drawn and quartered.
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Agreed, hung drawn and quartering is worse than death.
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12-11-2008, 12:47
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Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
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Agreed, hung drawn and quartering is worse than death.
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Sorry to be pedantic - but game is hung, people are hanged.
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12-11-2008, 13:03
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12-11-2008, 15:22
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Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
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Originally Posted by gasdetector
i have been given three addresses from the fraud department to check out following information received. All three are suspected of using illegal set top's and all are telephone only customers.So they'd better watch out cos i'm coming to get them
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Interesting.
How do you actually "check out" a customers address for illegal STB's?
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14-11-2008, 11:47
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Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
good ad that.
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14-11-2008, 12:30
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Re: Virgin media possibly getting serious on dodgy boxes?
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Sorry to be pedantic - but game is hung, people are hanged.
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Well illegal set-top box users are fair game
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