VirginMedia 50Mbit Statement (From VM)

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Too late........

Here's the link

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Originally Posted by TraxData2

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Update 11am Virgin Media has been in touch to point out that there is no traffic management on the 50Mbps tier for the trial connections, and no management levels have even been tested for product launch. So it seems the talk on forums is just that, idle chit chat and speculation. A full statement from Virgin is expected soon.

So is it Stm'd or is it not Stm'd only those in the test area's will know for sure

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It is impossible to know for sure whether the figures are what will apply to the product at launch, and with the product roll-out probably still some months away there is plenty of time for Virgin Media to change the figures.

So what has leaked out about the Virgin Media 50Mbps cable broadband package? Apparently it will have a 1.5Mbps upload speed, and the traffic management will only apply between the hours of 4pm to 9pm, with a trigger level of 6GB downloaded in the five hours. Those exceeding this limit will see their maximum speed reduced to 10Mbps for downloads and 0.5Mbps for upload traffic.

Update 11am Virgin Media has been in touch to point out that there is no traffic management on the 50Mbps tier for the trial connections, and no management levels have even been tested for product launch. So it seems the talk on forums is just that, idle chit chat and speculation. A full statement from Virgin is expected soon.

If the product does launch with no traffic management and the price premium over the 20Mbps product is not too large then the Virgin Media will have a product that only faces competition from providers like Ask4 and the full fibre network of H2O networks. A few ADSL2+ providers using their own unbundled network operate with no real limits, but even when BT launches fibre products it is unlikely to have a free for all of the scale Virgin Media is promising with its 50Mbps product

A 50Mbps connection, if allowed to run flat out for a month would download 16000GB (16 TeraBytes), hard drive storage for this amount of data would cost over £1000, or fill 1700 double layer DVDs.

I actually meant to reply to a thread rather than create a new post

There was a meeting this morning to decide the future of BB within VM, It was decided that 50Mbit will have no STM/Traffic management to start with.

And the new config which is on the new 10K Chasis is for the 20Mbit tier changing the limt from 3GB to 6GB during 4-9PM and with a 50% speed cut rather than 75%.

Dont shoot the messenger, VM can never make up their minds.

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Originally Posted by TraxData2

VM can never make up their minds.

Now thats a statement you can trust

So if thats true about no Stm then it looks like i will be signing up for some of that lovely downloading capability as its the only way to watch up to date HD, Lets face it VM dont have a clue about HD. I have just completed the upgrade of my media centre pc to full 1080p hd capability and Blueray player., I have also upgraded the main storage on it to 2 Tb.

Originally Posted by TraxData2

I actually meant to reply to a thread rather than create a new post

There was a meeting this morning to decide the future of BB within VM, It was decided that 50Mbit will have no STM/Traffic management to start with.

And the new config which is on the new 10K Chasis is for the 20Mbit tier changing the limt from 3GB to 6GB during 4-9PM and with a 50% speed cut rather than 75%.

Dont shoot the messenger, VM can never make up their minds.

Which contradicts

Originally Posted by TraxData2

Actually it has been known (by VM bods) what they were going to charge, for quite some time.

Amusingly, as always, alex denied that STM trials were being run for 50Mbit and denied that it had rolled out at the end of the trial

For most it was blatantly obvious that 50Mbit would not be STM free and wouldnt exactly be a premium product like they apparently say.

But yes, i do have some good sources...and indeed the price has gone down, though not by much and with STM the price/premium just is not going to be worth it, still, some muppets will still sign up for it just for bragging rights, those are the customers who VM want though, people who buy it and never use it

There is 2 more trial areas

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Originally Posted by foreverwar

Which contradicts

Not exactly.

Trials are being run on 50Mbit (or were), alex denied it (as he always does)

The STM trial has ended and it has been decided that its not worth putting traffic management on it -yet-, note i say -yet-.

No matter what they say im certain that at one point it will have STM (aka soon as people actually sign up for it and use bandwith)

Well Virgin have made atleast one good decsion

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Drags up his deck chair, Opens a cold one and waits for the fun to begin in this thread

Originally Posted by TraxData2

Not exactly.

Trials are being run on 50Mbit (or were), alex denied it (as he always does)

The STM trial has ended and it has been decided that its not worth putting traffic management on it -yet-, note i say -yet-.

No matter what they say im certain that at one point it will have STM (aka soon as people actually sign up for it and use bandwith)

So are you saying that the VM statement in thinkbroadband.com

Virgin Media has been in touch to point out that there is no traffic management on the 50Mbps tier for the trial connections, and no management levels have even been tested for product launch. So it seems the talk on forums is just that, idle chit chat and speculation.

was a lie?

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"with a 50% speed cut rather than 75%".

Well that would help more than a little.

I wonder why VM suddenly decide on this

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Originally Posted by darthlinux

I wonder why VM suddenly decide on this

But the 50% cut is still rumour

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Originally Posted by Sirius

But the 50% cut is still rumour

No it aint

the config is already on the headend...

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Originally Posted by foreverwar

So are you saying that the VM statement in thinkbroadband.com
was a lie?

VM, lie? i'm shocked

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The core technical issue here is whether or not the new infrastructure can handle the obvious amount of bandwidth that is going to be used when whoever decides to take up this "premium" tier.