Illegal downloading officially classed as a sin.

[Anypermitedroute]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

After indicating that you were going to withdraw from this discussion, you have contributed a fourth time to a thread that you believe to be "ridiculous"; the vast majority of which has been nothing more than rudeness.

If you have a problem with the content or placement of this thread, you have been advised to go through the correct channels.

You won't do this though, because it is clear that this harassment is not borne out of any true concern about the above, but out of a desire to discriminate against minority groups*.

*Note to other readers: Some years ago after I 'came out' as being disabled, I faced problems from a minority of members. It appears that this individual is the only one not prepared to move forward with a positive outlook.

*sigh* and this "individual" has never bought up or used your disability (not that I even knew ) against you, nor am I interested (to be honest no one else is either)

I would point out however being disabled doesn't give you a free pass to be rude to myself or others, something you have failed to address to me over the last year and continue to bait me via other means. Nor does it give you a pass to extenuate the truth/lie which I gave pulled you up on previously.

I am however prepared to be the grown up here and accept your apology for the good of this forum

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

Dear thread: Off to current affairs or lifestyle with you.

Originally Posted by passingbat

I have to agree with Ignitionnet; this thread has developed into something that has nothing to do with VM TV.

Originally Posted by pip08456

This thread has never been about VM TV so hasn't developed into anything.

It should never have been posted in the VM TV forum to begin with.

In reponse to Igni and passingbat.

Originally Posted by nicknewark

Absolutely agree! What a load of tosh, blimey I'm glad I don't illegally stream,
so I won't burn in hell for that, just have to get past the fact I'm as far as some are concerned that me
being gay is also a sin, do I care, nope.

Originally Posted by Bofrok

Exactly what I thought and that's having a go at anyone. Should have been in the Internet
section.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Let's close this thread now. It has nothing to do with Virgin Media and religion is a highly contentious subject.

Originally Posted by Anypermitedroute

Utter ridiculous thread to start with and serves nothing more than to stir and antagonise

Originally Posted by devilincarnate

What the hell is this thread meant to be about, if anyone knows?

Originally Posted by nicknewark

It's got a little out of hand, I think. But I suppose it's a debate. Totally nothing to do with VirginMedia!.
It's certainly touched a few nerves.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

But not that ridiculous that you chose to not only enter it, but comment too (not that your ironic contribution added anything meaningful or pleasant to the conversation).

You may wish to avoid threads that you believe to be ridiculous in the future, as opposed to trying to derail them.

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With hindsight it may have been put into the wrong section, i'm sure that admin will move it if they think this is necessary.

I don't think it's got out of hand, I've found the legitimate responses interesting to read.

Originally Posted by pip08456

With a bit of foresight you may have realised that it has nothing whatsoever to do with
the VM TV service. Even the title of your thread was a big clue for you.

In response to your post above

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

What sanctimonious rudeness.

If the placement of this thread affects you to any serious degree, I suggest that you go through the correct
channels instead of resorting to this sort of behaviour.

I do not consider myself "sanctmonious" nor rude but that is your perspective.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

*Note to other readers: Some years ago after I 'came out' as being disabled, I faced problems from a minority of members. It appears that this individual is the only one not prepared to move forward with a positive outlook.

You have never had a problem from me regarding your disability as I was never aware you had one. Why you feel the need to highlight it only you know. I have no problem with anyone with a disability (ask my good friend of 16 years who at 54 and suffering from cereabral palsey all his life will testify) also all my friends in the LBGT group you seem to be "coming out" with.

[passingbat]

Originally Posted by pip08456

In reponse to Igni and passingbat.


















In response to your post above



I do not consider myself "sanctmonious" nor rude but that is your perspective.



You have never had a problem from me regarding your disability as I was never aware you had one. Why you feel the need to highlight it only you know. I have no problem with anyone with a disability (ask my good friend of 16 years who at 54 and suffering from cereabral palsey all his life will testify) also all my friends in the LBGT group you seem to be "coming out" with.

Sorry, I don't get your point. Three members of the cable forum team have participated in this thread and so far have decided not to move it. There decision is good enough for me.

I guess the streaming aspect of TV and Film mentioned in the original post links it to the TV side of things?

The genuine responses have been very well natured. It's the input from people who don't want the thread, or who think it is in the wrong section that have caused unpleasantness IMHO.

Surely, if you don't like a particular thread, just don't read it or participate in it.

Thread moved to a more relevant section. I also suggest that everyone calms down and stays polite or it will be closed.

[tweetiepooh]

Couple of thoughts
1)Religion is often the "excuse" for wars and conflicts.
2)The Bible is a bit more difficult about copyright and the like. I believe the text of some versions is now, if not free of copyright, available for free but all versions we have in English are the result of lots of hard work translating and interpreting so are covered by copyright. Even KJV and other versions if printed, then that printing can still be in copyright. (You can substitute other languages for English above.)

[passingbat]

Originally Posted by tweetiepooh

Couple of thoughts
1)Religion is often the "excuse" for wars and conflicts.
2)The Bible is a bit more difficult about copyright and the like. I believe the text of some versions is now, if not free of copyright, available for free but all versions we have in English are the result of lots of hard work translating and interpreting so are covered by copyright. Even KJV and other versions if printed, then that printing can still be in copyright. (You can substitute other languages for English above.)

You could be right about printed versions. Fortunately this thread is about streaming and this site has multiple versions legitimately accessible, free of charge.

https://www.biblegateway.com/

Re the printed version, I doubt that any true Christian publisher would object to someone who genuinely couldn't afford to buy a copy, making a copy of someone else's Bible.

[RichardCoulter]

Up until now I had never thought about any copyright issues with the bible!

[Hom3r]

There are 2 reasons for war.

1) Land

2) Religion

[heero_yuy]

Originally Posted by Hom3r

There are 2 reasons for war.

1) Land

2) Religion

Add a couple more:

3) Oil.

4) Water.

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by Hom3r

There are 2 reasons for war.

1) Land

2) Religion

The first of those can probably be changed to 'Resources'. The second is usually an excuse to behave like genocidal asshats more than a reason in and of itself.

That said I suspect people would respect life far more, their own and those of others, if they didn't believe there was some paradise waiting for them at the end of it. Take away the idea of paradise in return for jihad and the suicide bomber count would swiftly drop to near-zero I imagine.

Most things sadly have upsides and downsides. Some draw great comfort and strength from faith, others use it to justify being inhuman.