The world ends tomorrow!! - Page 4

Kursk · 08-10-2015, 23:34

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

I think you're confusing the Bible with the Koran.

As far as I'm aware the vast majority of Christians most definitely do not take the Bible literally or consider the entire thing the infalliable word of God. Even the Bible doesn't consider itself in its entirety to be the word of God, there are passages that explicitly state they are not the word of God, but that of the author.

This in no way diminishes Christianity. Quite the opposite I would suggest.

As a case in point both the Pope and the Archbishop of Canterbury apparently believe in evolution and are fine with post-Big Bang cosmology. Takes a fair amount of 'interpretation' to reconcile a literal reading of Genesis with evolution and cosmology.

Diversionary much?

Word of God/spiritual guidance call it what you will but I wouldn't say it has ever been completely silent.

Russ · 09-10-2015, 05:46

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

Not the Young Earth variety that comes from a literal interpretation of Genesis, et al, though.

Which is why I said nothing about Young Earth. Not biting today Carl

Ignitionnet · 09-10-2015, 11:55

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Originally Posted by Russ

Which is why I said nothing about Young Earth. Not biting today Carl

Okay...

Evidently I read too much into your apparent response to me regarding something I didn't actually say. The implication in the response was I thought pretty clear. Given that you, Sir, were the one who posted provocatively. My response was nothing besides a clarification. I wasn't 'fishing' in any way. I think you're a little too used to being baited.

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Originally Posted by Kursk

Diversionary much?

Word of God/spiritual guidance call it what you will but I wouldn't say it has ever been completely silent.

I respectfully disagree, but then we inevitably fundamentally disagree on the source of such 'guidance'.

I'd also point out I was directly addressing a specific point you made that I don't think can be backed up - that the Bible is entirely unadulterated and protected by God. It was translated by humans. It was compiled by humans. I am not a scholar of such things but I am not aware of such scholars who would concur with your statement.

I also pointed out that what you are saying is exactly what a fundamental Muslim would say about the Koran.

Not diversionary in the slightest. Your viewpoint is just somewhat more 'fundamentalist' than the heads of both the Anglican and Catholic churches.

On that note this is, as always, a hot button topic and one regrettably not too amenable to dispassionate discussion. Any further attempts from me to do so seem futile even if I am just responded to existing posts. I'm out.

Russ · 09-10-2015, 12:24

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

Okay...

Evidently I read too much into your apparent response to me regarding something I didn't actually say. The implication in the response was I thought pretty clear. Given that you, Sir, were the one who posted provocatively. My response was nothing besides a clarification. I wasn't 'fishing' in any way. I think you're a little too used to being baited.

Provocatively!? A little too much atheist paranoia there I think mate

Both our points have now been clarified

rhyds · 09-10-2015, 13:57

But what has the flying spaghetti monster got to say about this?

mrmistoffelees · 09-10-2015, 15:00

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But what has the flying spaghetti monster got to say about this?

Oi, stop touching my noodly appendage !!!

**Paul** · 09-10-2015, 20:29

*Sigh* I missed the end of the world ... again ..

Gary L · 09-10-2015, 22:21

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Originally Posted by Paul M

*Sigh* I missed the end of the world ... again ..

Yeh. Dave gets to live another day.
and Jesus can still make an appearance.

Kursk · 10-10-2015, 00:03

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

I'd also point out I was directly addressing a specific point you made that I don't think can be backed up - that the Bible is entirely unadulterated and protected by God. It was translated by humans. It was compiled by humans. I am not a scholar of such things but I am not aware of such scholars who would concur with your statement.

The concurrence of others is not important to me. Nor do I feel the need to "back up" the statement that the word of God is protected. Believe it or don't.

You confuse fundamentalism (literal translation) with faith (spiritual guidance).

I am surprised you withdraw from a topic that fascinates you.

TheDaddy · 10-10-2015, 00:08

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Originally Posted by Paul M

*Sigh* I missed the end of the world ... again ..

It's early yet...

Osem · 10-10-2015, 19:19

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Originally Posted by Paul M

*Sigh* I missed the end of the world ... again ..

Don't worry there'll be plenty of other opportunities...

Gary L · 10-10-2015, 22:06

These are the official ones that are coming up.
2020, 2021, 2026, 2060, 2120, 2129, 2200, 2239, 2280, 11120, 500 million, 5 billion,

I'll probably miss the last 2 or 3.
I'll be in heaven chasing the sheep across the clouds.

alanbjames · 10-10-2015, 22:37

I have for a long time believed that all religions are man made and started off as just a way of keeping the population in check during a time of superstitions and over the past 1000 years has grown to a major money making spin.

As for evolution people are gonna laugh at my beliefs but there is evidence to support it.

I believe that we were created as a species by Alien intervention, many ancient drawings depict visitors from out of space etc. I also believe that the story of Atlantis to be true, i believe we once held technology far beyond what we have now and for some reason it was taken off us.

Jimmy-J · 10-10-2015, 23:30

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Originally Posted by alanbjames

I have for a long time believed that all religions are man made and started off as just a way of keeping the population in check during a time of superstitions and over the past 1000 years has grown to a major money making spin.

As for evolution people are gonna laugh at my beliefs but there is evidence to support it.

I believe that we were created as a species by Alien intervention, many ancient drawings depict visitors from out of space etc. I also believe that the story of Atlantis to be true, i believe we once held technology far beyond what we have now and for some reason it was taken off us.

A bit like the church of scientology.

Lew · 12-10-2015, 14:07

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Originally Posted by alanbjames

I also believe that the story of Atlantis to be true, i believe we once held technology far beyond what we have now and for some reason it was taken off us.

The Ancients moved to the Andromeda galaxy and we defeated the Goa'uld and buried the stargate.