24-08-2015, 19:24
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Ice Cold
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UFO BB
Seen this floating around Facebook as an advertisement. so I decided to take a look and they reckon they have 1000mb BB coming in the near future.
Any heads up on this site actually being legit?
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24-08-2015, 23:22
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Re: UFO BB
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Originally Posted by Gavin78
Seen this floating around Facebook as an advertisement. so I decided to take a look and they reckon they have 1000mb BB coming in the near future.
Any heads up on this site actually being legit?
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It's entirely legit and already available to a small part of York.
https://interest.sky.com/ufo/
https://ultrafibreoptic.talktalk.co.uk/
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25-08-2015, 13:30
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cf.mega poster
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Re: UFO BB
Guaranteed speeds? Unbundled provider? Can I move to York now?
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25-08-2015, 15:31
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Re: UFO BB
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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq
Guaranteed speeds? Unbundled provider? Can I move to York now?
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Yes. They're using the CityFibre network.
Sky / TalkTalk are paying to get from the CityFibre ring to the individual premises.
You may be interested to know that Aberdeen has a CityFibre ring.
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25-08-2015, 17:58
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cf.mega poster
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Re: UFO BB
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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet
You may be interested to know that Aberdeen has a CityFibre ring.
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Yes, I believe you mentioned in the past. Only available to businesses at the moment though, no plans for a residential service AFAIK. Edinburgh might be a better bet, I'm sure I've had a few business addresses down there I could ahem... "register"...
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25-08-2015, 21:10
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Re: UFO BB
With in 10 years dare I say 1TB will be just around the block.
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25-08-2015, 23:25
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Re: UFO BB
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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq
Yes, I believe you mentioned in the past. Only available to businesses at the moment though, no plans for a residential service AFAIK. Edinburgh might be a better bet, I'm sure I've had a few business addresses down there I could ahem... "register"...
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TalkTalk have said they want to roll out in other CityFibre cities if York goes well.
That Aberdeen is a CityFibre city puts it along with the other 3 that aren't York in a very short list.
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Originally Posted by Hom3r
With in 10 years dare I say 1TB will be just around the block.
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You can certainly dare say but absolutely no chance of that being a home connection by 2025.
May see some people selling 10Gb as part of a urinating contest but definitely not 1Tb. There's no prospect of seeing core network links running at 1Tb any time soon, it's not under real development yet.
Core network links are still at 100Gb/s, with 400Gb/s a work in progress. It would take core network links at 10Tb/s+ to make 1Tb access connections feasible.
To say how difficult that would be we are still at 100Gb and 10Gb Ethernet has only been around since 2002, with 10Gb/s transmission links, so just the 'raw' capacity of the optic link, around for a little while before that.
To say how far 10Gb to the home is away the cheapest 10Gb switch I can find that doesn't need expensive pluggables is over £600. The cheapest router that can do 10Gb line rate... somewhat more
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26-08-2015, 12:12
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cf.mega poster
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Re: UFO BB
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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet
TalkTalk have said they want to roll out in other CityFibre cities if York goes well.
That Aberdeen is a CityFibre city puts it along with the other 3 that aren't York in a very short list.
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Good point.
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May see some people selling 10Gb as part of a urinating contest but definitely not 1Tb. There's no prospect of seeing core network links running at 1Tb any time soon, it's not under real development yet.
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http://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/work...-record-136689
Yes, yes, I know. Multiple carriers, WDM, etc. is "cheating".
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To say how far 10Gb to the home is away the cheapest 10Gb switch I can find that doesn't need expensive pluggables is over £600. The cheapest router that can do 10Gb line rate... somewhat more
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While that is true today, historically ethernet technologies have massively dropped in price as soon as they hit consumer-market scale production.
If Thunderbolt 3 takes off (40Gbit carrier, with mandatory 10GbE emulation layer) most home computers will have 10GbE capability built-in by 2020. The cost of the Alpine Ridge chips for that are estimated around $20 so that'll bring the cost right down.
Oh, and we have literally boxes of "expensive pluggables" here that were bought in error, just rotting away Seems nobody bothered to check when ordering 24-port 10GbE switches whether they already had transceivers built in.
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26-08-2015, 16:47
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Re: UFO BB
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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq;35795246[url
http://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/workspace/alcatel-lucent-bt-set-1-4tbs-fibre-bandwidth-record-136689[/url]
Yes, yes, I know. Multiple carriers, WDM, etc. is "cheating".
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Aware of transmission technology going well beyond 100Gb at layer 1 over a single fibre, but the individual layer 2 links going across that will max out at 100Gb. 1Tb Ethernet isn't on the radar for right now.
Even way back when I was messing with ISP networks fibres carrying 96 x 10Gb wasn't infeasible, problem was all the kit to connect them to once they'd been dropped out of the mux.
Multiple carriers isn't cheating, it's absolutely necessary for 100Gb with the exception of 100GBASE-ZR
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