21-06-2015, 17:43
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Re: Putin warning...
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Originally Posted by Hugh
The 'Great Patriotic War 1941-45'....
I wonder what they call the bit just before that, 1939-41, where, in conjunction with Nazi Germany, they invaded/annexed parts of Poland, Lithuania, Estonia, Finland, Latvia, and Romania - the 'not so-Great Sneaky War 1939-41'?
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I wonder if just after 'The Great Sneaky War 1939-41" the 22 million Soviets that died in "The Great Patriotic War 1941-45" in any way reconciles that misdemeanor?
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21-06-2015, 20:46
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#122
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Re: Putin warning...
Probably not, as the first part will have been written out of their history books, and the millions of Russians (and other nationalities) that the Soviets killed during the pogroms before, during, and after the war, would be missing as well.
http://www.ibtimes.com/how-many-peop...n-kill-1111789
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Most other estimates from reputed scholars and historians tend to range from between 20 and 60 million.
In his book, “Unnatural Deaths in the U.S.S.R.: 1928-1954,” I.G. Dyadkin estimated that the USSR suffered 56 to 62 million "unnatural deaths" during that period, with 34 to 49 million directly linked to Stalin.
In “Europe A History,” British historian Norman Davies counted 50 million killed between 1924-53, excluding wartime casualties.
Alexander Nikolaevich Yakovlev, a Soviet politician and historian, estimated 35 million deaths.
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22-06-2015, 01:58
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Re: Putin warning...
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Originally Posted by Kursk
I wonder if just after 'The Great Sneaky War 1939-41" the 22 million Soviets that died in "The Great Patriotic War 1941-45" in any way reconciles that misdemeanor?
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Misdemeanor? All those people that died in the sneaky war are classed as a misdemeanor, gawd knows how you classify the mass rape of East prussia and silesia at the end of the Patriotic War then
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22-06-2015, 21:26
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Re: Putin warning...
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy
Misdemeanor? All those people that died in the sneaky war are classed as a misdemeanor, gawd knows how you classify the mass rape of East prussia and silesia at the end of the Patriotic War then
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I just knew the deliberate use of the word wouldn't distract someone with the intellect of Hugh. All that was needed was the right sort of sham-affronted nitpicker to come along.
And here you are .
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23-06-2015, 01:36
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Re: Putin warning...
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Originally Posted by Kursk
I just knew the deliberate use of the word wouldn't distract someone with the intellect of Hugh. All that was needed was the right sort of sham-affronted nitpicker to come along.
And here you are .
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You really are a piece of work, deliberately using one of the worst crimes of the war for wumming just about sums you up. Might be best you go back on the ignore list, not entirely sure how you got of it unless it was something to do with your last holiday from the forum.
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23-06-2015, 16:36
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Re: Putin warning...
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy
You really are a piece of work, deliberately using one of the worst crimes of the war for wumming just about sums you up. Might be best you go back on the ignore list, not entirely sure how you got off it unless it was something to do with your last holiday from the forum.
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Please, please put me on your ignore list. Your contributions just get in the way when grown ups are talking.
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23-06-2015, 18:19
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Re: Putin warning...
I bet David Cameron wishes the BBC was as supportive of him as RT is of Putin. Therein lies the truth about the relative freedoms of the two nations and the extent of Putin's control of the media.
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23-06-2015, 18:41
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Re: Putin warning...
US have deployed an armoured brigade across six of our most Eastern neighbours. El Presidentski not happy
Not many tanks in the great scheme of things but many of the Russian front line tanks are of limited combat value against modern NATO tanks. The 1000 or so crappy old T62s and T72s they've "sneaked" across the border to Eastern Ukraine are of no real combat value under similar terms.
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23-06-2015, 19:13
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Re: Putin warning...
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Originally Posted by Uncle Peter
US have deployed an armoured brigade across six of our most Eastern neighbours. El Presidentski not happy
The 1000 or so crappy old T62s and T72s they've "sneaked" across the border to Eastern Ukraine are of no real combat value under similar terms.
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Russia are doing nothing more than bringing a clapped out tank to a drone fight.
They are quite hideously outmatched conventionally, and even Mr Putin isn't stupid enough to push the big red button.
The fact that he's so outmatched conventionally actually helps keep things stable - he knows the US have no need to resort to nukes, they can happily hand his arse to him without them and both know it.
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23-06-2015, 19:38
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Re: Putin warning...
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Originally Posted by Kursk
Please, please put me on your ignore list. Your contributions just get in the way when grown ups are talking.
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You should pay more attention to Gary L, he is an occasionally amusing troll at least, no need to beg either
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23-06-2015, 19:55
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Re: Putin warning...
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Originally Posted by Kursk
Please, please put me on your ignore list. Your contributions just get in the way when grown ups are talking.
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I suggest that you consider using the same action..
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