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adzii_nufc · 08-03-2017, 15:36

CIA is, and always has been, a rogue agency that doesn't answer to their civilian authority. It has caused, or been made to cause the majority of international problems we face in the world today.

Yet it's still here.

**Mick** · 08-03-2017, 16:14

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Originally Posted by adzii_nufc

CIA is, and always has been, a rogue agency that doesn't answer to their civilian authority. It has caused, or been made to cause the majority of international problems we face in the world today.

Yet it's still here.

Saw a documentary about JFK scaling back the CIA in a big way back in 60's, it caused a lot of deep upset within, but then we all know what happened next to JFK...... Coincidence?

adzii_nufc · 08-03-2017, 16:21

I get that it's no surprise they're doing stuff like this, but it can't be just shrugged off like it isn't a problem, they're not the NSA, these are dangerous people that will utilize things like these for dangerous things.

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Saw a documentary about JFK scaling back the CIA in a big way back in 60's, it caused a lot of deep upset within, but then we all know what happened next to JFK...... Coincidence?

Just after he trashed the incredible Operation Northwoods.

Osem · 08-03-2017, 16:21

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Its already started; personal micro chipping. Ostensibly good reasons for doing so, but open to so much nefarious abuse.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...echnology.html

I tend to agree. Not necessarily a defined plan but more a gradual erosion of privacy and freedom disguised as 'progress' which will ultimately play into the hands of criminals and those who'd rather like to be able to control/exploit the masses in one way or another, if only to preserve their own privileged status. The pace of technological change is such that's increasingly difficult to predict where all this will end up in terms of its uses (good and not so good) and wider effects on our society.

**Damien** · 08-03-2017, 16:37

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Originally Posted by adzii_nufc

I get that it's no surprise they're doing stuff like this, but it can't be just shrugged off like it isn't a problem, they're not the NSA, these are dangerous people that will utilize things like these for dangerous things

It may be a problem depending where you stand on the importance of a security service such as MI6 or the CIA but as long as you do have one this should be seen as their bread and butter.

What about this is scandalous? The CIA's job is to gather intelligence covertly.

Kursk · 08-03-2017, 16:43

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Originally Posted by passingbat

Its already started; personal micro chipping. Ostensibly good reasons for doing so, but open to so much nefarious abuse.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...echnology.html

"And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name".

techguyone · 08-03-2017, 16:45

because... tovarich, we don't yet live in soviet russia.. or do we?

adzii_nufc · 08-03-2017, 17:38

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Originally Posted by Damien

It may be a problem depending where you stand on the importance of a security service such as MI6 or the CIA but as long as you do have one this should be seen as their bread and butter.

What about this is scandalous? The CIA's job is to gather intelligence covertly.

I already answered that. :

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CIA is, and always has been, a rogue agency that doesn't answer to their civilian authority. It has caused, or been made to cause the majority of international problems we face in the world today.

What part of controlling vehicles is used to gather information? I'm fairly confident that's part of undetectable assassinations. Quite frankly, with the exploitation of Windows they could literally create the largest botnet on the planet, although they're probably a step ahead.

Believing the CIA would actually use any of this to just gather intelligence is naive, it'll be used to blackmail, kill and anything that fits their own agenda. That's the CIA way and that's the way it's always been.

Can't even fathom that an organization responsible for plotting terror attacks on domestic soil, very likely participating in Operation Gladio and committing terror attacks and torturing it's own citizens would be merely gathering information for the 'protection of the US'

The NSA done this and it was scandalous. However, they tend not to kill people whenever it suits them.

passingbat · 08-03-2017, 17:49

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"And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name".

Spot on; Revelation 13:17.

I think a possible scenario, in the future, is that micro chipping will be forced on everyone, and it will be used as a database to implement the mark of the Beast.

**Hugh** · 08-03-2017, 18:36

Excellent timing for the release of this news - swept everything else off the front pages....

**Damien** · 08-03-2017, 18:42

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I already answered that. :

No. I got that. However that seems a general comment on the CIA rather than this specific release of documents.

I think Assange and the conspiracy-wing of the internet have let themselves run away with this 'Vault 7' hype when the substance is mundane. All they've really done is embarrassed the CIA but obtained the material but that material isn't evidence of anything especially nefarious. It's not even the deployment of these exploits but the investigation of those exploits.

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What part of controlling vehicles is used to gather information?

None but it's an obvious security issue. The CIA will want to learn how to do it. Yes maybe they'll use it for covert assassinations too. They are the CIA. Although I suspect this exploit is overblown too because there is no mass provider or platform for self-driving cars so the question would be what they've actually broke into here.

**Paul** · 08-03-2017, 18:55

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Originally Posted by passingbat

Its already started; personal micro chipping. Ostensibly good reasons for doing so, but open to so much nefarious abuse.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...echnology.html

It seems to turn your hair bright pink as well

Kursk · 08-03-2017, 22:42

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It seems to turn your hair bright pink as well

I wonder if it's a case of matching collars and cuffs?

Bit of a scary thought!

passingbat · 08-03-2017, 22:50

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It seems to turn your hair bright pink as well

That's just the genetic modification they do via the chip....