Police in training for 'Mumbai-style' gun attack in UK - Page 3

Derek · 26-07-2015, 09:24

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...or-attack.html

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A top secret plan for the mass deployment of armed troops on the streets of Britain in the wake of a major terrorist attack can be revealed for the first time today.

More than 5,000 heavily armed soldiers would be sent to inner cities if Islamic State or other fanatics launched multiple attacks on British soil – an unprecedented military response to terrorism.

So a discreet glock on the hip or a yellow taser is bad but a soldier in full gear is good. Has the Home Secretary been at the chancellors secret stash?

Will the army have the same rules of engagement as the Police or be subject to murder trials ten years after any shootings? And how quickly could they be deployed in the event of an attack?

Anyway I thought the Police had enough resources to cope already and could cope with further cuts so why would the army be needed.

Osem · 26-07-2015, 09:55

I think we could well be needing both the full resources of the police and the army in the not too distant future. I can't see there being exactly the same rules of engagement in such an eventuality and can see plenty of scope for future legal action even by the guilty, let along and innocent victims of the 'crossfire'.

Gary L · 26-07-2015, 09:56

Just keep out of city centres. and don't go anywhere near London.

you'll be fine.

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Originally Posted by Osem

I think we could well be needing both the full resources of the police and the army in the not too distant future.

We let it go this far.

**Maggy** · 26-07-2015, 11:14

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Originally Posted by Derek

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...or-attack.html

So a discreet glock on the hip or a yellow taser is bad but a soldier in full gear is good. Has the Home Secretary been at the chancellors secret stash?

Will the army have the same rules of engagement as the Police or be subject to murder trials ten years after any shootings? And how quickly could they be deployed in the event of an attack?

Anyway I thought the Police had enough resources to cope already and could cope with further cuts so why would the army be needed.

Why are we going down this route? We didn't when we were at war with the IRA..

Sirius · 26-07-2015, 12:33

I have no issue with this, we need the Army to deal with any religious nut jobs should they attack. considering that most of these nut jobs will not be interested in saving the own skins they will go full on. A soldier in full body armour and a gun will be able to deal with anything the nut jobs throw at them. If the attacks in the past are anything to go by they will have assault rifles, explosives and grenades. I feel sorry for any copper that comes up against that sort of fire power. I believe you should be able to face the terrorist with better fire power than they have if you want to shut them down quickly

26-07-2015, 12:36

Is the river Thames too shallow to bring in a nuclear class submarine (e.g HMS Ambush) to protect central London?

imo, OTT reaction and/or just a PR exercise.....

**Hugh** · 26-07-2015, 12:38

PR exercise / scaremongering....

Sirius · 26-07-2015, 12:43

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Originally Posted by Maggy J

Why are we going down this route? We didn't when we were at war with the IRA..

The IRA did not run around shooting and beheading people whilst shouting Ally Snackbar. The IRA terrorist always ensured they could get away because they did not have suicide and virgins as part of there plan.

arcimedes · 27-07-2015, 10:31

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Originally Posted by Carlos Carboni

Is the river Thames too shallow to bring in a nuclear class submarine (e.g HMS Ambush) to protect central London?

imo, OTT reaction and/or just a PR exercise.....

Err torpedoes don't work on dry land

Osem · 27-07-2015, 12:17

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Originally Posted by arcimedes

Err torpedoes don't work on dry land

Submarine launched cruise missiles do.

http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/the-equi...s/astute-class

**Maggy** · 27-07-2015, 12:47

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Originally Posted by Sirius

The IRA did not run around shooting and beheading people whilst shouting Ally Snackbar. The IRA terrorist always ensured they could get away because they did not have suicide and virgins as part of there plan.

Still no excuse to go crazy..that only satisfies the ego of those in so called Islamist groups.

Stuart · 27-07-2015, 12:50

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Originally Posted by Sirius

The IRA did not run around shooting and beheading people whilst shouting Ally Snackbar. The IRA terrorist always ensured they could get away because they did not have suicide and virgins as part of there plan.

No, they just parked unmarked vans filled with explosives in public places.

heero_yuy · 27-07-2015, 13:16

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Originally Posted by arcimedes

Err torpedoes don't work on dry land

Bangalor ones do.

Osem · 27-07-2015, 13:25

The point being that a van packed with explosives is a very different type of threat requiring a different type of response.

HMG is right to draw up plans for any such attack and I don't see this as an overreaction although I do see a element of PR at work. They must be seen to be doing something even if the truth is that there's an endless list of potential targets for gunmen (lone or otherwise) to choose and no way we can protect them all 24/7 with armed police/troops.

One thing is without doubt and that is when the inevitable happens, the Govt. will be blamed for not having done enough and we'll all start to see things a lot differently.