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Tivo advertise those services, but they don't advertise in the UK and as a user, your contract is not with Tivo. Quote:
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Therefore any advertising by TiVo Inc. in the US is irrelvent as that is a different product |
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Thats got a bit snappier than the original "Virgin Media powered by TiVo"!
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Yeah. Always thought that was a bit long-winded :D
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Of course, I never thought of that :)
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I can't believe how many people jumped to the defence of Virgin and try to justify locking out features of what is a first class product. One TiVo feature that is missing that cannot be helped is the option to remove commercials from recordings, as advertisement investors would lose faith in the marketing power of TV advertising, thats fair enough, but to stop features such as TiVo Desktop Plus and Smartphone control over LAN is just ridiculous and customers such as myself want access to these features. Quote:
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I'll put a question out there to you all, which would you honestly prefer to have, the current Virgin Media TiVo service, or the Service currently offered in the USA? ---------- Post added at 01:23 ---------- Previous post was at 01:13 ---------- Quote:
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[QUOTE]Tivo advertise those services, but they don't advertise in the UK and as a user, your contract is not with Tivo.{/QUOTE] I agree, I have a service contract with Virgin Media to be served content, but not hardware features that are associated with the TiVo brand in hardware, just turn them on. Quote:
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Virgin Media:TiVo is Virgin's own product. It is not US TiVo, and has never claimed to be. The hardware is Virgin's design as are the choice of who makes the hardware. TiVo supply the software only. Quote:
Also VM haven't stopped Smartphone remote controls where they follow published guidelines What has been stopped (by TiVo Inc as they keep blocking them in the US too) are those apps that hack an undocumented protocol to get them to work Quote:
Yes, coax and fibre are capable of faster speeds, but the modems, routers, CMTS and other hardware within the network isn't/wasn't. All the customer may see is a new modem, but there is a lot of other kit that gets changed. Even when Virgin introduced a load of new HD channels, that was only possible after the introduction of the NGTV platform - most of which was new kit at Virgin Media's end. It was why the HD channels were rolled out on a regional basis Quote:
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I think the problem is rights, and I suspect part of that problem is Sky. Sky have proved very good at agreeing contracts with channels that then prevent those channels offering anything to other platforms that might put Sky at a disadvantage. Tivo To Go would certainly put Sky at a disadvantage as they can't (AFAIK) offer anything to compete. I'll be honest that is speculation though. Quote:
It's interesting that you bought up Apple (and the iPhone) as they were recently punished for selling the iPad 3 as a 4G capable device worldwide when it isn't. Quote:
Ben's done a far better job than I could, but let's just say from what I have been told, the hardware in VM's headends bears little resemblance to the hardware in place 4 or 5 years ago. The fact that most consumers are largely unaware of the upgrades beyond seeing more channels and faster broadband is a testament to how well the engineers performing the upgrade did their job. As a person who helps maintain rather a large network myself (several thousand users), I know that the one thing you don't want is users to be affected by upgrades. It's better if they aren't even aware, but you are able to offer better (or faster) service as a result. I would like to see Tivo To Go introduced in this country. I suspect that VM want to as well. It would be a hell of a selling point for their marketing department to get their claws into to get one over on Sky. |
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I know that Virgin do offer web content and the search option mentioned, but if the software supports the features, then why not allow it. Quote:
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I'm not saying that updated hardware is never implemented, but I am saying that it's not as often as is implied. Quote:
You will see things been activated more frequently when BT's Infinity project is complete and there is direct competition in the works, the service won't be as exclusive as it has been up to now. |
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If you want to buy your own box, there are plenty of alternatives such as Freesat from Sky, Freesat, Freeview and YouView Quote:
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