Re: Benefit cuts are fuelling abuse of disabled people, say charities
Sadly not everyone with a disability has a Natalie or a partner working full time and able to make them a dependent.
Damn I thought it was bad back in the 70s but I think it's going to get much worse than then. I wonder if there are children having to share a boiled egg like my mother and aunt had to during the years of the Great Depression? |
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Anyway yes there are children like this. |
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shall you and I save the country and stop it whilst we can. or shall we just hold on tight and hope another country in the world comes and rescues us at the time? |
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Like yourself I found no help whatsoever from the government in obtaining work, it was all done of my own back, (and no martyh mandating people to do shelve stacking is not helping them find suitable work.) |
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That expression 'there but for the grace of god/fate' holds very true.It can happen to anyone. |
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What you have discounted is the time period between when I lost my jessops job and when I was earning enough to support myself, as if that time period didnt exist. You still have yet to reveal your background and your motive for your reasoning. Its also probable if I was been forced to do work related activities which had no relation to what I could possibly do I would never have achieved anything. You are very wrong on what you think will happen, its already been proven in the states. When welfare support stops people dont magically get cured and start working, instead you get homeless piling up on the streets and things like soup kitchens popping up. Families will get strained as well as vulnerable people will become dependant on family members. |
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I needed the financial help, that is very clear. The point I made is all the noise government's make about helping people with work, training etc. is pretty much all noise. There way of helping people into work is compulsory activity that fits what employers need cheap labour for rather than suitable help. The other point I am making is you see it that everyone in society needs to be productive paying into it, I see it as the able of society should look after the vulnerable in society. I have moaned about many things in life but I have never moaned about taxes and never about supporting people on benefits. That was the case as well even before I had ever claimed any benefits. I started doing charity work since I was 17 where I used to do furniture deliveries to elderly people's homes for a charity one day a week, and I even carried that on when I was doing 6 12 hour shifts a week. . |
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I should point out for the benefit of some that if you have managed to source work and work from home then i applaud that and will earn respect from me and many others ,but relying on or expecting the state to support you when you are quite clearly on your own admission capable of doing it yourself should earn you no respect. I sincerely hope it is the former ---------- Post added at 20:22 ---------- Previous post was at 19:46 ---------- Quote:
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There are very few jobs in my local area full stop let alone those that would employ a disabled person so if welfare stops for say fifty people in my area how the hell are they suddenly supposed to manage for themselves then Marty jobs don't just appear. It really isn't as simple as you make it out and quite often when you talk on the subject you don't need to state you don't know much about the reality of the system because your posts scream it. Reading what is on websites and hearing what some two faced government lapdog has to say are totally different to living within this system.
Being honest i am going to stay out of these types of threads from now on i can see exactly where the wind is blowing and although i have always said i wouldn't wish my illness on my worst enemy these days there are quite a few i would be happy to see in my boat and the same boat as many other medically disabled so they would start to understand and realise how pathetic and petty these reforms are. |
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To me qualification for IB/ESA or whatever it be called in future probably UC as that law is signed off now is not about if someone can do work from home or whatever but more about if they employable and capable of getting a job via normal means. That is very different to someone starting a business from home.
The new way of identifying if someone is capable of work is flawed and I wont stand by it ever, its purpose is simply to save money. Everyone reading this thread will have read enough now to make their own judgements, but you come across martyh as someone who advocates "survival of the fittest" and a general advocate of slave labour practices. My guess is I come out on top with respect points. Bye for now, unsubbing from the thread again as taking too much time up responding just to you again. |
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Sadly we have breed a society which has many who are cold uncaring people. I dont wish any illness on anybody even evil people maybe its just my nature to forgive. Do agree these people who got cold heartless atitude may thing reflect there views as someday it might be them who need help. |
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the whole objective is purely to save money. they will find any way they can to reduce what these people get both in finance and support. and we'll get Dave's big slaphead on tele showing his anger and hate towards these people being covered up with dramatic (Tony Bliar rip off) hand gestures. society is going to change dramatically towards these kind of people now. and society is going to be paying a bigger price for it. |
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