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Per the above I can complain about anything I see fit to anywhere I see fit to so long as the host allows it. I resent paying higher tube fares so that tube drivers can get above inflation pay rises and absurd benefits by threatening to bring London to a standstill while most others see limited wage rises. I complain about it elsewhere, did you want me to link you to those other places I've commented so that you can complain about my complaining there too? |
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And What do you define as extremely unreasonable demands, Af far as I know, Tube Drivers and Public sector wokers are not demanding 7 figure wages or rolls-royces as company cars, not even free Iphones! ---------- Post added at 09:42 ---------- Previous post was at 09:35 ---------- Quote:
The trouble is that there are no decent jobs that pay decent salaries or pensions, if fact there are noty many jobs out there anyway and you know what is really band, is that The wealthy are still doing well, they still have high wages and high pensions, deispite that fact they cause the current mess they are in ---------- Post added at 09:44 ---------- Previous post was at 09:42 ---------- Quote:
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Are you sure that ther is a high supply of people that want to be tube drivers, I mean it is not this best of jobs (I mean the actual work you have to do) and anyway, you do not have to use public transport! ---------- Post added at 09:54 ---------- Previous post was at 09:53 ---------- Quote:
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Which is better - a driver sat in his cab who is unable to do anything but call for assistance on a radio or other communication system if there is a reported passenger incident, or if the train is automated, a member of staff who can be mobile for the entire train length and able to both patrol and respond to incidents? Since trains are currently one person operated, I suspect the latter could be of more benefit to passengers?
Underground staff currently enjoy quite a good salary package. That is due to their overall strength of numbers and that many jobs, especially those of drivers, do take some time to become properly skilled. Whilst many of us would think it perhaps easy to drive a train, it is not that easy for an employer to "grab someone off the street" to replace other staff. Thus the unions do have a relative stranglehold. One does have to reflect that some of their shift patterns can become antisocial, and that first and last train type roles may make getting to or from work difficult. It does appear to me that the relative salary level is already too high relative to other jobs. The tube driver is a skilled person, even if that skill isn't easily transferable to another job. That is the same for many people. It is wrong to argue that those, who include me, who have degrees and other professions, are automatically entitled to better salaries. I can only earn what I do based on what the public are prepared to pay for my services, and currently that isn't much, despite the fact that as a professional I effectively have a trade union, or more correctly a professional body who are supposedly promoting my profession. This shouldn't be about whether someone get's triple pay or whatever time off benefits for working on a certain day. The real principle here seems to be that a deal was negotiated and agreed a few years ago to include bank holiday working, and now a union it trying to turn it's back on that and so far seem to be succeeding. |
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I believe in unions but not in the unions that hold the rest of the country to ransom particularly on public holidays on a regular basis..
It should be an EQUAL relationship between employer and employee Not an exercise in blackmail from either side. And there are not unions in every workplace especially small private retail or franchised retailers such as Specsavers. My daughter retrained as a dispensing optician at the cost of the small franchised Specsavers firm who, when she was using their services and heard her story, offered her a job and the chance to obtain further qualifications.There is no union and frankly if there were it would break the finances of the business if the employees were forever on strike to get better wages. I can just see what customers would do if denied access to getting new glasses..they would just walk up the road to another outlet or to another independent opticians Not something that tube users can easily do.The only alternative is to drive,catch an already overcrowded bus or walk.The first is no longer economically viable because of parking costs and Charges and the last is impractical after a day spent on your feet serving customers..In a tube strike the middle option strains an already stretched service. The line you Alan Fry crossed is the one that arrogantly assumes that only you have the answers about a persons situation when you have no idea what that situation really is and you have the temerity to offer advice that just won't fly..Just like Mary Antoinette. |
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And another thing, If you want to avoid strikes on the tube, vote for someone who is mork likly to give in and be co-operative with the unions than someone who is not! ---------- Post added at 12:35 ---------- Previous post was at 12:30 ---------- Just found out, the owners of Specsavers are worth over £1 Billion, also The owner of Dollond & Aitchison (D&A) and Boots Opticians avoid paying tax by basing themselfs in Swizerland! Now do you see my point! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Perkins |
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Just where are you going to find all this money so everyone can earn £55,000 a year. Are you willing to pay £500 for a eye test or £1000 for a Car service.
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