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Old 03-10-2011, 19:54   #1
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Mind The Pay Gap? Tube Drivers 'To Get £55k'

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London's tube drivers are set to see their wages rise 5% this year, more than double the national average, to hit £55,000pa over the next four years.
That's a hell of a deal

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The latest pay offer by London Underground (LU) has been put to leaders of the Rail Maritime and Transport union (RMT) who are now consulting their members' representatives.
Whats to consult ,any other worker would snatch their employers hand of

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LU said the deal offered the prospect of no industrial action over wages until at least 2015.
ah so LU have bottled it then with the olympics coming up

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Under its terms, staff would get a 5% increase this year followed by RPI inflation plus 0.5% in the subsequent three years.
It is a marked improvement on national salary increase averages
no kidding

http://news.sky.com/home/business/article/16081693
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Re: Mind The Pay Gap? Tube Drivers 'To Get £55k'

Give it 12 months and I'm sure Bob Crow will find something else to whine about, which of course will lead to more strikes.
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Old 03-10-2011, 20:04   #3
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Re: Mind The Pay Gap? Tube Drivers 'To Get £55k'

It'll backfire..

The DLR routinely operates with no actual driver on the train (although there is a member of staff who can take control, closes the doors and checks tickets). The Victoria and Jubilee lines can also operate the same way...
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Re: Mind The Pay Gap? Tube Drivers 'To Get £55k'

This is absolutely repugnant, and offensive to Londoners who are feeling the squeeze of below inflation pay rises or freezes.

*Taps a quick and unhappy email to Boris and TfL.
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Old 03-10-2011, 22:38   #5
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Re: Mind The Pay Gap? Tube Drivers 'To Get £55k'

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This is absolutely repugnant, and offensive to Londoners who are feeling the squeeze of below inflation pay rises or freezes.
I think that the tube users should boycott the tube in protest
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Re: Mind The Pay Gap? Tube Drivers 'To Get £55k'

It's not even protecting the Olympics from strikes so Bob can hold LU to ransom over that separately for heaven's sake. Pathetic.

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I'm rather hoping to see what Boris has to say about this, given we've Osborne and Pickles getting all hard on unions Boris capitulating to the RMT in this alleged time of austerity where we're all in it together.

Handing a pay rise of this level to the RMT is an insult to Londoners receiving below inflation pay rises and seeing well above inflation fare rises, it's an insult to the entire public sector who are seeing pensions and salaries put under pressure, and it's an insult to everyone who voted for Boris in the mayoral election.
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Re: Mind The Pay Gap? Tube Drivers 'To Get £55k'

Absolutely disgusting
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Re: Mind The Pay Gap? Tube Drivers 'To Get £55k'

I think we should give the Londeners a £50 bonus in their benefits too. we don't want them rioting again and scaring the foreigners.
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Re: Mind The Pay Gap? Tube Drivers 'To Get £55k'

Personally i think anything over £20,000 for pressing a button to go forwards and another to stop is a good deal. There are some who disagree though.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...-deserve-50000

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Tube drivers are unsung heroes
They risk the trauma of 'jumpers' to drive millions across the capital every day underground – tube drivers deserve £50,000
So by that logic anyone in the armed forces deserves a huge increase. Bus drivers who are more likely to hit someone should be on 100k plus and paramedics should get a gold plated private jet for possibly dealing with some blood.
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Re: Mind The Pay Gap? Tube Drivers 'To Get £55k'

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This is absolutely repugnant, and offensive to Londoners who are feeling the squeeze of below inflation pay rises or freezes.

*Taps a quick and unhappy email to Boris and TfL.
Would this be the same Boris who in the london mayor elections of 2008 called for a no strike deal with the tube unions,which he has not delivered on as yet.

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Personally i think anything over £20,000 for pressing a button to go forwards and another to stop is a good deal. There are some who disagree though.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...-deserve-50000



So by that logic anyone in the armed forces deserves a huge increase. Bus drivers who are more likely to hit someone should be on 100k plus and paramedics should get a gold plated private jet for possibly dealing with some blood.
Seems there are lots of special deals in the public services


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...ing-phone.html

I work in the public service myself and have always answered the phone when off duty for free ie no payment.

The tube unions use their power no doubt but so do other vested interests wrongly in my view.
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Re: Mind The Pay Gap? Tube Drivers 'To Get £55k'

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Seems there are lots of special deals in the public services

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...ing-phone.html

I work in the public service myself and have always answered the phone when off duty for free ie no payment.
Except thats a lie or at best very selective journalism the kind of which I'd expect to see in the pages of the Daily Mail.

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It means an experienced sergeant earning more than £40,000 a year would be given more than £100 for taking a call that might only last a few moments.
So someone at the very top of their wage bracket, who happens to be on-call such as a negotiator or firearms advisor, has to deal with something outwith their normal hours before the payment is triggered. It's not a blank cheque the second the phone rings.
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Re: Mind The Pay Gap? Tube Drivers 'To Get £55k'

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Tube drivers are unsung heroes
They risk the trauma of 'jumpers' to drive millions across the capital every day underground – tube drivers deserve £50,000
And what about the emergency services who actually have to remove the dead bodies from under the trains (the drivers don't have to do that), and don't get paid anywhere near the drivers.
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Re: Mind The Pay Gap? Tube Drivers 'To Get £55k'

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Except thats a lie or at best very selective journalism the kind of which I'd expect to see in the pages of the Daily Mail.



So someone at the very top of their wage bracket, who happens to be on-call such as a negotiator or firearms advisor, has to deal with something outwith their normal hours before the payment is triggered. It's not a blank cheque the second the phone rings.
In the article it stated even constables who had just joined could get these payments.

Even a newly trained constable earning around £25,000 would pocket £64 for a similar call.



But the point i was trying to make was this certain groups of workers tube being the obvious example seem to get very good deals due to their power,rightly or wrongly the police seem to do very well.

Wheras the soldiers that fight for the freedom of our country die for very little reward.

All over the public sector be it tube drivers or any other employee needs to have a proper structure which appears to be delivered by the power wielded and nothing else.
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Even a newly trained constable earning around £25,000 would pocket £64 for a similar call.
Except a newly trained constable would probably never get a similar call.

Anyway as has been mentioned before I reckon it's getting close to the tipping point where automated trains will be cheaper than continually caving in the demands of the union.
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Except a newly trained constable would probably never get a similar call.

Anyway as has been mentioned before I reckon it's getting close to the tipping point where automated trains will be cheaper than continually caving in the demands of the union.
Yes i agree wih you on that point automated trains probably are the future on the tube at least, and yes i do think the union make too many demands at present would really have liked to see a no strike deal as in the old barbara castle plan years ago "in place of strife"which even in the late sixties aimed at no strike deals.
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