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Old 30-11-2017, 18:40   #1
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New EU Rules dictate chips must be cooked paler

I remember now why I and 17.4 Million people voted to leave the EU.

This is bloody ridiculous.

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Golden brown chips, crisps and biscuits are to become paler under new food safety guidelines issued by the European Commission.

From April, food businesses and manufacturers must prove they are reducing levels of acrylamide in foods to minimise consumers' exposure to the chemical which has been identified by the World Health Organisation as a cancer risk.


Acrylamide forms naturally when frying, roasting or baking foods with a high starch content at high temperatures (over 120C).

It can be found in a wide range of home-cooked and processed foods, including roasted potatoes and root vegetables, crisps, chips, bread, biscuits, cakes, cereals, coffee and cereal-based baby foods.

Dr Lisa Ackerley, food safety adviser at the British Hospitality Association, told Sky News: "To achieve lower levels of acrylamide, food producers may cook food at a lower temperature but for longer, meaning the colour of food may become lighter.

"Every product is different, and food producers and caterers will be expected to determine the best time and temperature models for them, to ensure they are meeting the lower levels of acrylamide."
https://news.sky.com/story/new-eu-fo...chips-11150075
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Re: New EU Rules dictate chips must be cooked paler

Life is a cancer risk, what next, regulations to limit that ?

Logan's Run, here we come.
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Re: New EU Rules dictate chips must be cooked paler

Life isn’t officially considered a carcinogen
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Old 30-11-2017, 19:26   #4
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Life isnít officially considered a carcinogen
no but the EU should be
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no but the EU should be
Quite unlikely tbh.

I guess there are two questions I would have:

1) How strong is the link to cancer and is it worth the golden colour for the chip?
2) Would the UK food safety agency also ban it anyway? If the EU are there is a good chance we would too

While I donít know in this case I like the fact there are organisations that research these things. While obvious things are unhealthy , like alcohol, which we can choose to have or or I would have no idea about the ingredient of a chip.
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Re: New EU Rules dictate chips must be cooked paler

Cook them yourself. Then you can thumb your nose at the loony rules.
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Quite unlikely tbh.

I guess there are two questions I would have:

1) How strong is the link to cancer and is it worth the golden colour for the chip?
2) Would the UK food safety agency also ban it anyway? If the EU are there is a good chance we would too

While I donít know in this case I like the fact there are organisations that research these things. While obvious things are unhealthy , like alcohol, which we can choose to have or or I would have no idea about the ingredient of a chip.
two questions i ask
1 does it taste good
2 what booze goes with it
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Re: New EU Rules dictate chips must be cooked paler

"Colour is flavour" and I don't want bland food foisted on me by some bureaucrat who is doing it "for my own good".

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As of 2014 it is still not clear whether dietary acrylamide consumption affects people's risk of developing cancer.

Experimental results that are based on feeding acrylamide to animals might not be applicable to humans.

Food industry workers exposed to twice the average level of acrylamide do not exhibit higher cancer rates
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acrylamide

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Classified in Group 2A (probable carcinogens) by the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC).

This designation is applied when there is limited evidence of carcinogenicity in humans as well as sufficient evidence of carcinogenicity in experimental animals.

In some cases, an agent may be classified in this group when there is inadequate evidence of carcinogenicity in humans along with sufficient evidence of carcinogenicity in experimental animals and strong evidence that the carcinogenesis is mediated by a mechanism that also operates in humans.

Exceptionally, an agent may be classified in this group solely on the basis of limited evidence of carcinogenicity in humans.
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Life isnít officially considered a carcinogen
Really ?

I'm pretty sure there is a very strong link, dead people dont ever seem to get cancer, only the living.
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Really ?

I'm pretty sure there is a very strong link, dead people dont ever seem to get cancer, only the living.
yes, getting old is one of the major cancer risks unfortunately.
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yes, getting old is one of the major cancer risks unfortunately.
Not necessarily, tell this to my long term best friend, who have known since I was 5, his cousin of 42, she has just been given two weeks to live, not expected to make it to Christmas for her two young children.

Saying this, my younger brothers heart stopped beating when he was 3 when he was being operated on due to bowel cancer.
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Re: New EU Rules dictate chips must be cooked paler

Didn't one of the people who set this place up die young from cancer?

I rather look at this positively then negatively, same as the one that orders firms to supply sunscreen if employees are working outside
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Didn't one of the people who set this place up die young from cancer?

I rather look at this positively then negatively, same as the one that orders firms to supply sunscreen if employees are working outside
Neil's friend (For those unfamiliar with the sites history from the beginning, Neil was original, ntl owned nthellworld.com Forum Admin, like me), I do believe. Long time ago, around 2004, if I have my year correct.
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Not necessarily, tell this to my long term best friend, who have known since I was 5, his cousin of 42, she has just been given two weeks to live, not expected to make it to Christmas for her two young children.

Saying this, my younger brothers heart stopped beating when he was 3 when he was being operated on due to bowel cancer.
Unfortunately I know that too well Mick. My son was diagnosed with testicular cancer at 17. Fortunately it's one of the most treatable cancers. He's fine, but it's been 5 years of scans, endless appointments, false alarms, that we could all have done without. It's screwed up his education more than anything.

There are cancer risks like age and genetics that we can do nothing about. But it makes sense to limit the lifestyle risks we can control, like diet, smoking, sunburn. An increasing number of people are going to get cancer in an ageing population, but not necessarily die from it. It'll soon be seen as a natural part of old age.

As for chips and the EU, I don't want to give either up
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Re: New EU Rules dictate chips must be cooked paler

Cook your own chips,or biscuits or whatever. Problem/issue sorted.
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