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Old 05-11-2017, 10:18   #61
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Re: ITV threaten to blackout on Virgin

More on this in the Torygraph:-
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/...edia-80m-bill/
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ITV is threatening a blackout of its flagship channel in millions of homes unless cable operator Virgin Media hands over up to £80m a year, in a pivotal confrontation over dividing the spoils of the British television industry.

The pair have been locked in tense discussions since ITV issued Virgin Media with the demand over the summer. The broadcaster threatened to shut down the feed of its main channel to 3.8 million cable television homes last month.
I'm with VM no way should they be paying for Freeview channels. But they shouldn't be charging customers for the Player package, which is basically freeview.
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Re: ITV threaten to blackout on Virgin

My belief is ITV are sabre rattling Mr K.
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Re: ITV threaten to blackout on Virgin

If the figures in the article are correct, it averages out at £1.75 per customer, per month. It's pretty hard to imagine the cost being fully absorbed by Virgin if implemented. However, earlier in the year the Telegraph suggested ITV was also tying in carriage renewal for its other channels into a the negotiations - so the figures may not just be for the main PSB channel and it's +1 and HD variants.
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Re: ITV threaten to blackout on Virgin

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More on this in the Torygraph:-
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/...edia-80m-bill/

I'm with VM no way should they be paying for Freeview channels. But they shouldn't be charging customers for the Player package, which is basically freeview.
Obviously you have to pay for the player package, you have a v6 to rent
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Re: ITV threaten to blackout on Virgin

Have they done the same for sky and if not why? If sky are getting away with it couldnt VM do the same as sky?
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Re: ITV threaten to blackout on Virgin

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. . the Player package, which is basically freeview.
Cheers for that, I had no idea what it is I'm paying for

you notice I said paying for and not watching, because there's nothing on there that would interest me . . . well actually there may well be a couple of programs, but as the wife watches all the inane crap it spouts out there really isn't any 'free' time to watch anything I'd consider entertaining.

At 63 years of age I've seen the best of TV viewing come and go, to be replaced by the politically correct and sanitized drivel that keeps the unimaginative masses hooked on whether Tommy will kiss Gloria in tonights episode, or which of the (unknown) celebrities will win that massive £2500 for a charity of their choice.

Keep all that stuff, I'm happy fragging people in online gaming
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Re: ITV threaten to blackout on Virgin

I don't think ITV should be allowed to charge for their main channel - it is free on terrestrial tv after all.

Additionally, this will set a big precedent.

If they insist, Virgin should set ITV up as a standalone channel (way down the EPG listings) and demand ITV set up the method and expense of charging for it themselves.

This way they will realise people aren't going to pay for a channel full of adverts and dross programming.

Whatever next, BBC trying to charge for their main channels?

We should all make our feelings known to Virgin that we are not prepared to be charged extra for it.
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Have they done the same for sky and if not why? If sky are getting away with it couldnt VM do the same as sky?
This new law only applies to cable delivered TV and won't affect Sky until they start their IPTV service.

The Government initially said that they didn't expect this to affect traditional cable companies, but now that ITV is trying it on, they say that it's for the market to decide.
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Have they done the same for sky and if not why? If sky are getting away with it couldnt VM do the same as sky?
Simple answer, Sky don't transmit ITV on satellite, ITV does via their own contractors. They simply pay Sky to be on the Sky EPG. Should ITV impose a retransmission fee for carriage on satellite, they would have to charge themselves.

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More on this in the Torygraph:-
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/...edia-80m-bill/

I'm with VM no way should they be paying for Freeview channels. But they shouldn't be charging customers for the Player package, which is basically freeview.
Indeed. As ITV have now put forward a figure of 80m, VM should now make it clear that they want ITV to pay for carriage. A sum of £120m sounds reasonable.

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This new law only applies to cable delivered TV and won't affect Sky until they start their IPTV service.

The Government initially said that they didn't expect this to affect traditional cable companies, but now that ITV is trying it on, they say that it's for the market to decide.
Not like this government to get itself into a situation with no clear plan of how things will work out. Oh wait...
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Re: ITV threaten to blackout on Virgin

Why not blame it on Brexit?

Everything else that goes wrong is blamed on it after all
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Why not blame it on Brexit?

Everything else that goes wrong is blamed on it after all
Now you're just being silly
(however it is to blame for a lot of what's going tits up atm !)

There is an interesting bit in the Telegraph article about VMs contingency if ITV did blackout. Just getting the channel from Sky's unscrambled feed ! (Even if it's just the main ITV channel).

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The only thing ITV have of any worth (imo) is next year's World Cup, shared with the BBC. They could use this as a bargaining chip, but most of us still have aerials anyway...
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They could use this as a bargaining chip, but most of us still have aerials anyway...
Do we? I don't...........
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Do we? I don't...........
Its surprising the amount of channels you can pick up with an indoor aerial and I'm not in a particularly strong signal area.
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Do we? I don't...........
I do, but not one that was designed for digital reception, and I'm not sure how good it (or the lead etc) would be, it's not been used for 17+ years now.
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I do, but not one that was designed for digital reception, and I'm not sure how good it (or the lead etc) would be, it's not been used for 17+ years now.
In most cases transmitters are broadcasting DTT at similar power and in the same frequency group as they did in purely analogue days. If your aerial gave you good reception 17 years ago it will do so now, provided the wind hasn’t shifted it and the weather hasn’t degrade the exposed cable.
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